livingston is not up to AFL standard.
his only hope is that he plays on david neitz 22 games per year.

Agreed.

I was watching Fox Footy yesterday, Blues V Swans last time they met. Crucial moment in the last Q. The ball got kicked into the Swans forward line and Livo had no idea where the ball was. He had his back to the play ( before the ball was even entering the fwrd 50!!! ) watching his man, whilst waving his arms around like a madman... O'loughlin took the easiest of marks, kicked the goal, game over... Poor Livo had no idea...

That sumed it up for me.... he aint got the tools to play AFL.

Lance is not always loose man Synbad - it just looks that way because he zones off so much in the same way that Lappin, PIckett, Rivers etc. do. Very different things.

Clearly theres no match up for Livingston. There is no need to panic on this for or against him, its just they have a mobile marking forward line and agility is not in Livo's strong suits. Not sure why Teague would come in over Bannister for that particular role but there will be other games where Livo is brought in.

Limited players have limited match-ups.

Just watched the Freo game again.

Livo was absolutely f##### lost. He can't even do the basics. His confidence is shot. What's changed in 6 years? The incident on the wing when the McPharlin circled easily around Livo was ridiculous. Livo what is going through your head? Have you ever heard of corralling your opponent? Livo dropped cannot be questioned even allowing for team structure, balance and basically not even having a replacement.

Sporn - much improved effort.

De Luca - improved ever so slightly toward the end, but should not have been given another opportunity this week.

Stevens - IMHO was the most disappointing senior player in the group. Appears to be developing a campo disease where he gets easily distracted by some argy bargy. For f*** sakes Stevo why let that punk Crowley get under your skin man? If you have to hit him then hit him once and good. Cop your 3 weeks then you won't have him annoying you again. This is the second time Crowley has got into you and you have come out of it very badly!

Shane Wakelin got dropped for the Hawthorn game. Mark Williams is Hawthorn's full forward. Now you know one.

It's tricky with Livo. Last week in the first half McPharlin dominated against him but Livo was not really given a chance to redeem himself after half time. But last year in Melbourne Livo also played on McPharlin then for the whole match and kept him really quiet and Freo kicked 24 goals that day. Also, in round 1 this season, Livo did well on Neitz who whilst not on top of his game has beaten Livo comfortably in the past.

I don't believe the argument that there was no match-up, I just think that the MC were disappointed with him last week and are dropping him for this week. Sydney have a range of different sized forwards from the smaller blokes to O'Loughlin to Hall so you can't say there's no ideal matchup, it's not like they play an especially small forward line.

You'd have to worry about his future though beyond this year.

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Would you call Lance an inlimited footballer???

And tell me who he is on tomorrow.... and for how long.. and how tight he played on him.
Livo out for a slower.. shorter Teague is baffling.

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Livo apparently has back problems that rob him of power when they flare up. I'd say he probably wasn't dropped, but rested. The trip to Perth and back is a shocking thing for someone with back ailments.
Late in his career, Lynch had similar problems. How many times did he fire in Perth? He rarely even bothered to get on the plane. When he did it took a couple of weeks to get back to real fitness.

Yeah Livo's time might by up, him along with De Luca and Prendergast .. bye bye for next year.

What a shame about livo, 4th draft pick overall, what a desaster in the end. Kennedy will be much better at the same pick (4th)

You blokes are pretending Livo is the only one that gets exploited at times and makes mistakes.

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Plenty of time for Livo to find his way back into the team.Long way to go,and it aint over for Livo just yet.Agree with the point about releasing the pressure off T Bird.If the selectors have got it in for Livo so bad,then they should be trying another big bodied bloke back there.

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That's the problem,his back,like Angelo Christou when he was injured coming back from his back injury,he will never be great and he will never become the player we thought he would be,his first season he played,he was pretty good,ever since that year,he is always behind his man trying to punch the ball and outmarked instead of playing in front .

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Livingston is an honest toiler, who slots in OK at VFL level, but is simply not up to AFL standard, and he only gets a game because we have the worst defence in the competition. Livingston is slower than Teague, does not have an instinct for the game, and is easily confused in one-on-one situations, as was clearly evident against McPharlin last week.

Whitnall's performance is not a valid comparison. Whitnall may not always be accountable, but he reads the play extraordinarily well, and is very creative with his disposals; two things Livingston will never be accused of doing.

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Well put Jack re Whitnall.

The comments regarding Whitnall playing accountable footy really do my head in, especially when the discussion is about Livo.

How many times has this so called unaccountable backman (Whitnall) had his free opponent kick a bag against him this year? Yeah NONE. He is a freak, and he plays CHB and CHF very well. Hence, I wish we had two of him.

I want Livo in the backline; in fact FB. Hall will kick goals against anyone. If Livo's back is restricting him, then I'm glad we are not playing blokes under an injury cloud.

It's not the backline that will decide who wins in this game. It's the midfield and rucks.

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