If we didn't have Pagan, Brendan Fevola would not be playing for the Carlton Football Club - that is one great thing Denis has done.

Are you saying that Denis Pagan did not want to trade Brendan Fevola last year?

If we didn't have Pagan, Brendan Fevola would not be playing for the Carlton Football Club - that is one great thing Denis has done.

There are very few people who can make an educated (factual ) assesment on where Pagan is at in terms of his coaching of the blues.

A few may know players who say he is shit, there are the hardcore numbers (winning percentage), there is his recruitment record, and his development of young guys.

He has certainly let himself down in terms of recruiting Mick Martyn, Ricky Mott, Jason Saddington, Callum Chambers, Troy Longmuir, and Daniel Harford.

Perhaps that was his choice, perhaps he was unwisely guided too recycle players.

The two shining lights in his development process has been Fevola and Blacwkell in my opinion.

Of his recyled players i would say Scotland is the best.

Who is to say someone would have done better? Or worse? That's subjective.

His game plan could be scrutinised, but does he have the players?

Lets put it this way, what would people's views be if he could be paid out no questions asked? Probably let him go.

For now he needs too stay put, unless a financial backer comes through and offers an alternative.

Many say he still is good.

Having said that I think the club could be more insistent on him getting his mug on TV shows and selling the club and the upcoming draft a bit more.

if we didnt have pagan, fev would be playing for beaconsfield right now.

when pagan came to carlton all fevola had achieved in his 4 years at the club was 12 goals in a practice match 3 years ago. we can never praise pagan enough for what he has done with fevola.

He would have got picked up by someone else.

The majority of us agree that Pagan should go. I’m assuming this translates into the majority of Carlton members also thinking this way (this is an assumption but all the members I speak to think so).

As such, I’m seriously contemplating bringing a video camera to the footy over the next couple of weeks and asking Carlton members to state their name, membership number, and if they reckon Pagan should go.

If I spent some time between quarters going around the ground, plus do a bit before and after the game, I reckon I could get 100+ members agreeing.

I realise this will potentially come to nothing as
- Pagan is still on contract
- The club can’t afford to pay him out
- The club is too anal to think that he is part of our problems
- Etc..

but at least I and my fellow members could feel good knowing that we have voiced our opinions (once I mail copies to the board and the coach himself) !!!

WHAT DO YOU THINK ???

WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO VOICE YOUR OPINION ON FILM ?

The majority of us agree that Pagan should go. I’m assuming this translates into the majority of Carlton members also thinking this way (this is an assumption but all the members I speak to think so).

As such, I’m seriously contemplating bringing a video camera to the footy over the next couple of weeks and asking Carlton members to state their name, membership number, and if they reckon Pagan should go.

If I spent some time between quarters going around the ground, plus do a bit before and after the game, I reckon I could get 100+ members agreeing.

I realise this will potentially come to nothing as
- Pagan is still on contract
- The club can’t afford to pay him out
- The club is too anal to think that he is part of our problems
- Etc..

but at least I and my fellow members could feel good knowing that we have voiced our opinions (once I mail copies to the board and the coach himself) !!!

WHAT DO YOU THINK ???

WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO VOICE YOUR OPINION ON FILM ?

The majority of us agree that Pagan should go.

It's not acceptable to be where we are at the moment, but there is no point carrying on about Pagan - let him see out his contract and then don't re-sign him.