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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:27 pm 
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Our old mate chyna from TBV days wrote a pretty damning article on Fevola a few years back.The article follows,the last paragraph is worth noting.


Chyna wrote in 2003....
A subject close to my heart after hearing the bleating from Carlton supporters for the past few years, but especially the way many of you have jumped onto Fevola's bandwagon in the past few weeks. All I can say is that I am disgusted and disappointed by the fickle supporters have seemingly jumped on him after 2 games where he kicked 4 and 5 goals respectively. Having seen him do similar things in the past - ( remember finals time in 2001?), all I can say is big F*ing deal!!
Ok, OK.. so his attitude seems to have changed - he seems to be running and chasing a bit more. Do you all remember his starts to the seasons over the past few years?? I remember commenting on the same things in 2001, and in 2002 pre-season. It all quickly fell away tho.
Only time will tell if it happens this year again. One would hope not but geez... its not looking good
OK Ok, so he can take a strong mark. He always could! Not very consistently mind you but he does have that ability. ( I am not going to use the word potential which so many of you seem to love because he has been around for years now... potential only gets you so far in life).

He is employed to kick goals. Missing sitters with his so called "ability" is just NOT ON! His 5 behinds this weekend were ALL kickable. I bemoan the fact that he missed yet he is not held to account! He damn well should be. Perhaps scoreboard pressure on Port (of which he would've been directly responsible for had he kicked straight early in the game) may have enabled us to go in at half time with a handy 3 goal lead - or more. But no..... flower cant kick straight and Port easily whisked the ball away several times from kick ins.. from his points.. to kick relativley easy goals. Could the second half have been played any differently if we were 3 goals up at half time rather than level??? Who knows but all I know is that Fevola ( being the dud he is) didnt allow us to find out. ((PS Jon McCormick.. take note. NO-ONE should miss sitters!!!!))

I was extremely vocal in here last year in getting rid of him - my god I was shocked when they didnt, and reading posts about how he is a "project" player, and Pagan will get the best out of "Fev" made me puke. To me he just is NOT good enough a player to warrent a key forward post and unlike most fickle Carlton supporters.. I dont believe he is a champion or ever will be.

In my opinion, he is not good enough for the following reasons...
1/. INCONSISTENT!! both erratic in his marking, his kicking and his thought processes. ( Stupidly trying to be mercurial in third term and kick over his shoulder from goal square when an easy handballl to Davies would have resulted in easy goal) This is just STUPIDITY!! Think TEAM if you are going to be there Fevola and maybe we have a chance.

I am rambling.. I have said much but there is more I havent said. I know I will be lambasted by most people in here with this post but geez.. to hear the Carlton "faithful" ( and I use this term very very loosely) praise him as a "superstar" after kicking 9 goals in two games.. well it has me at a loss.

As for the Sydney game - I made the trek on the Firefly overnight express. He really wasnt that good as many people will make out. Barely serviceable is what I would say. AGain.. missing easy goals that he should have nailed on his ear is annoying and watching him do it time and again over the years is so blood frustrating.

If he turns around and has a 70 goal a year season then yeah... I will begin to think that maybe he can play the game and will have egg on my face. I am prepared for it if it happens and will owe him a huge apology which I will send to him myself. However I am not that fickle that I am going to forget 4 years of watching him struggle with skill, and suggest he is a miracle worker and start calling him "Fevalenko, Fever, FEvalio or anything else that sounds remotely positive until he proves over time that he deserves it.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:39 pm 
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Thats a lot of egg to be wearing on your dial.....

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Who let the elephant out? :lol:

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Why stop at Chyna when half the site said he wasn't any good? Hell there wouldn't be too many people here who wouldn't have made a wrong call on these boards somewhere along the line.

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I was critical of Fev on another site.....very critical.

I looked on him as a wasted talent who just didn't try hard enough to get a kick....to chase ....to tackle; and to show a good example to not only our younger players; but to kids in general.

He used to drop his head and sulk; and I despaired of him ever showing the natural abilty he displayed that New Years Eve with 12 goals.

To me....it's been the parnership with Alex Cheatham and her little girl Mia; and now their newly arrived baby, that has helped Fev to completely change things around.

Also.... giving up the booze last November has obviously been a plus for his fitness.....he's never looked so good.

We've got to give credit to Denis and the support staff too....whatever.....I'm not critical of him anymore; and I'm very proud of him and what he's achieved.

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Now that his fitness and muscular tone has developmed he is finally becoming a dangerous one on one player - a year or so ago he was easily brushed aside in one on one contests now he is winning them and even pack busting occasionally. :wink:

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Fev has a chequered histroy, on and off the field, there is no doubt about that. However, apart from a few extreme cases I think his endeavour on the field in terms of chasing and doing the one percenters has generally been better than average for his whole career. The problems have been the rare occassions when he's not able to get himself through the ultimate periods of frustration which have led to the more celebrated cases of on field dissent.

Looking at his career overall, I'd rate his application as pretty good. I reckon he's copped a lot of undeserved flak.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:14 pm 
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TheGame wrote:
Why stop at Chyna when half the site said he wasn't any good? Hell there wouldn't be too many people here who wouldn't have made a wrong call on these boards somewhere along the line.


I understand that many have got things wrong on this site, however some are more vitriolic than others.

What really caught the eye was the issue of 70 goals and a strongly worded promise of a retraction...


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camelboy wrote:
The problems have been the rare occassions when he's not able to get himself through the ultimate periods of frustration which have led to the more celebrated cases of on field dissent.



Most of these have been frustration due to the pinpoint delivery he has received - mainly in the shoelace region (circa 2002/2005). :roll:

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7dominator wrote:
TheGame wrote:
Why stop at Chyna when half the site said he wasn't any good? Hell there wouldn't be too many people here who wouldn't have made a wrong call on these boards somewhere along the line.


I understand that many have got things wrong on this site, however some are more vitriolic than others.

What really caught the eye was the issue of 70 goals and a strongly worded promise of a retraction...


Fair enough, if Wiggins keeps improving I better watch out. :)
Think I'm safe with my Pagan, Livo, Sporn, Prendergast and Deluca predictions.

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Pffffft!

Get Elroy in here to pay up with the beers he owes everyone!


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It will be an omelet when Fev is holding up the Premiership Cup in a few years. :lol:

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Plenty off eggs to be thrown around not just at chyna.
Lots of people like to have a crack/abuse/talk shit at certain players then vanish into the night when that player plays well or they then move on to the next target.

Maybe a "I was wrong" forum should be started!

which could be the starter for all who said Kade Simpson's a dud :roll:


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There probably will need to be a ruling on the level of vitriol required for a post to be dragged up. Thus, if a post rates on the vitriol scale at 8 (like chyna's) it can be dragged up no earlier than three years later. A 9, two years, and a 10 after twelve months.

Anything under 8 should get a five year window.


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Yep I'll put my hand up for Simmo 8) and gee's its great to be wrong!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:08 pm 
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Now that he finally HAS kicked his 70 goals that I asked for I am more than happy to swallow my pride and send him an apology.
I will do this next week when I return from Perth.
Egg on my face - I don't think so when it has taken him an extra 4 years....read it.. . 4 years.... to become the player so many of you thought he was after only 2 rounds of footy.

Now if only he would kick those important (oh,, and I forgot kickable) goals "when we need them" and not during junk time when the games are over we will all be better off.

Still finding a way to give him a kicking aren't I.

I am pleased that he is kicking goals but ropeable when he misses sitters that may actually help us put some scoreboard pressure on the opposition. To me, as mercurial as he is, to miss easy shots that he should kick with his eyes shut is unforgiveable.

As for his running, chasing and tackling - no-one would actually believe that I stood and applauded him during both the Melbourne game and the Hawthorn game (as well as a few others during the year. Good on him.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention and I will fulfil my own call post-haste!


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