Synbad - tell us the players of contention.

All well and good to say you know who they are - prove it with some substance.

Tell us and i will play your money game.

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

surely when you provide stastics you should also provide a control situation???
Otherwise dont provide misleading statistics..Youre becoming very notorious for providing lop sided statistics and information Jarusa...
Surely youre smarter than that......?????:?

And if you going to just spam statistics and info willy niully ill continue to pull you up on it.....
Cos youre just muddying the waters... not rogering the waters

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Please explain to me how picks 1 to 5 of the PSD from 2000-2005 are misleading?

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mate my info has been right over a long period on here and tbv.
reckon i need to play a game???
either take it or dont...!!!

if you dont think we will get anyone that would walk into our side just take me up on it...
The ball is in your court...

Brad... a good player would be a player that would walk into our side yes?????
One that on reputation should command 22 games???

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Cos its n9ot balanced with players that went to other clubs cheap on the threat of using the PSD..

Jarusa you shock me!!!!

You use stats willy-nilly but you obviously dont understand how to turn stats into something meaningful......

Dont play stupid... you know exactly what you did... stats are your life...
Dont tell me the one thing you do well you dont do well......

Youve been doing that alot lately.
The conclusion is youre being sly.... or youre just dumb!!!!

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I'll have $20, on the nose on 'Sly' thanks mate.

takes one to know one

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Mate , you're always playing games.

Spouting knowledge but never backing it up and sniping others who try.

I appreciate your insight but sometimes you take your "games" too far.

You put up a challenge ,i jumped on board and issued you back a challenge and you backed down claiming you don't need to play games ??

Why can't you back up your claims ?

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

If our list is this bad that doesn't make him a good player. A good player would walk into our team and finish Top 5 B&F, a 'big name' would finish Top 3.

In the end I hope you're right. If you are then we'll all be acknowledging you and saying what a wise man synbad is

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I agree with the premise that the real value in having the first pick in the PSD is the leverage it gives that club to essentially blackmail clubs with uncontracted players. St Kilda used this to great effect with Gehrig and Hamill and, I think, Heath Black.

"Trade him to us on our terms, or he walks for nothing". It's a pretty compelling argument, and one that potentially nets you two decent uncontracted players.

Having second pick reduces your bargaining power significantly, though.

I also think there's real value in knowing a long way out from season's end that you're going to have the first pick. Imagine being able to get into player's ears NOW, when their clubs are trying to re-sign them... with the certainty of having the first pick in the PSD.

Bloody Hawthorn - they're going to screw everything up for us...

But if a player walks into our club infront of what we already have... youd have to say that he is an improvement on what we have yes????

and Jarusa??? i didnt read grrrrrrrrrs post so put that one in the 'Synbad didnt read ledger'....


Look one thing about clubs and players is they would rather give something for a player but dont want to give alot.
The PSD works like that....!!!!

But then there are players that will walk...usually they ummm and ahhhh about a contract then say theyre leaving...because its too late to be traded.
Its all about perception...

No player or club want to look like theyre dogging other clubs because they become a target themselves.
However it still happens...but its just disguised with abit of blackmail or the player decides negotiations 'fell over' after draft time...
Makes clubs feel better...

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Typical...............

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Ok.. i read it just so you feel better.
My answer to you is this...

Im saying we will take a player in the PSd who will walk into ourt team and we will force a club to trade with us ... you either take that for what it is or just be a squeaky wheel on a supermarket trolley.

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Yes, if you're replacing David Clarke with Travis Gaspar, is it an improvement? Yes, was it worth finishing last for???

If you're replacing him with Stephen Powell or Trent Knobel, is it an improvement? Yes, will it help us win a few extra games?? Maybe...but do we want to win a few extra games next season, win 7 games and miss out on young Selwood?

Who's going to be of more benefit to us in 3 years time, Selwood or Knobel?

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I don't care if you read my post or not but your response was very typical of you and you managed to not only have a go at me but also Jarusa.

I hope what you are predicting is true but i still cant see why you cant substantiate what you say.

At the moment what you say is just rumour covered up by the supposed hype and mystery that is Synbad and his "inside" knowledge.

Maybe i should just squeak away like that trolley wheel and go back to the way you like it..............

......Campo's an overpaid downhill skiing hack and isn't that lance an overpaid fat hack.......trust me.....i know......

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Brad.. lets get fair dinkum here.... ok???

are you trying to say with our current list were at a disadvatage if we come last and get 2 picks in the top 3 kids in the country.. and 3 in the top 20... along with say trading a later pick or a player for a player who is worth more but the opposition club would rather that than nothing.. as well as even taking a player who would walk into our side and play 22 games....

...compared to winning 5 1/2+ games and coming second last giving us pick 3 and Phil Reid???


Cos just in case you were wondering ... even if we win the rest of our games.. we will be a game short from winning our way into the finals...

Perspective .(Just giving you some)

Think then speak...

Ill wait for your answer...

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I dont need to substantiate anything...or i cant..

I might be a bullshit artist and use horoscopial gibberish... so what???

Surely you can get through life seperating bullshit from fact...
Just continue along the way you were before you saw me on here...

I dont know everything.. i just know something.. thats ok isnt it???
I dont need to know everything.. as long as i know something?

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You're saying that its better to this season get as many draft picks as possible, as high as possible (3 top 20, maybe trade for another in the top 20) trade for a good player, take a good uncontracted player, a Knobel or Powell, so that next season we win 7 games and finish 11th, thereby missing out on Selwood.

Rather than this season get as many draft picks as possible, as high as possible (3 top 20, maybe trade for another in the top 20) pass on your Powell or Knobel, win 4 games next season, finish 16th and draft Selwood.

Would you rather Powell and Pick 6 in next years National Draft or keep Clarke and have Selwood next season and be able to draft our 22 game player then in the PSD?

btw, how did we end up here? Shit hypothetical argument I say

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Brad, im not expecting miracles.
Whoever we bring in wont turn the club around overnight.
We will still most likely finish bottom two next year.
Selwood would be odds on to come to us next year along with Hanson.
We lack experience in the senior stakes.
We lack polish...
bbut as we bring players in and others mature it will all click.

Next year we might still get belted.... but we will mature.
The year after we might start making real inroads ( not getting belted and being competitive winning games.. and those 60 point thrashings become 20 points ... percentage higher and win more games (not ugly wins)
The year after Walker/Betts 21.. Waite 24 .. Fisher and T Bird 23... etc..plus a few other young guns and help from uncontracted players... Fevola taking a more responsible possie at the club with maturity etc.. and we start knocking teams off...
The year after that were in with the important teams... and our players taking the steps ...were competing for a flag.. we mightnt get there but the window of opportunity is ajar...and its 10 oclock on the Malthouse premiership clock.
That would be the plan....

We just have to keep on accumulating young talent and experience to nurse them along till theyre ready.

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As far as uncontracted players still and I am not 100 % on these

James Bartel
Joel Corey
Steve Johnson
Paul Chapman

all from the Cats.

Bartel and Corey would be the two I'd be targeting.

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