The thing is, I EXPECT him to blitz at another club, just not at ours
Fev @ carlton = Richo career progress
Fev @ another club = Hall career progress

There comes a time when we have to cut our losses and move on - I'm of the opinion thatthe biggest mistake richmond made over the past 10 years was not trading richo when he was a lot younger. It would have changed the fabric of the entire club.

Difference is Lance cant blitz anywhere.. the best he can be is a handy player....

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I think it's too late for Fev.

He's mucked up so many times, if he stays it will be a compromise and the club can't afford that.

The club should cut their losses now.

Why would we trade him this year when next year's draft is so much better?

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I'm with you, Chicken. Fev is a cancer that needs cutting out.

Sure Lance is asking $400 - why wouldn't he? Other clubs could quite possibly be offering $450 and we've allocated $300?? We just gave a mug $450 for 3 years based on what?? and we can't reward persistance, loyalty, integrity and leadership? Man, are we [REDACTED] up or what!!

WE DON"T NEED HIM!!

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Any club would be mad to offer Lance $450K....

I don't want to expose our kids to another year of poor leadership from our senior players. Yes we might get a better kid out of next years draft but a what cost? We still should get a good result trading him/them this year.
You can't compromise on respect,ethics and standards. We've been doing that for too long and look where we are now.

Maybe not, but look who we just gave $450 to

Here's a challenge - play Fev all over the ground like we do Lance and see how he handles it - CHF, CHB, FB, FF.

Funny, I don't hear Lance complaining about delivery or lack of endeavour from mid fielders - he just gets up and battles his arse off every week with-out this bullshit whinging aboout 'delivery'.

It would be Pagan's biggest mistake to let Lance walk now!

I dont see Fev having to visit fat farms or pull the old tyre out for some nice pictures in the papaer to show how motivated he is either.

You're not going to get anything better next season. Clubs will still only be willing to give up so much.

We may be offered Pick 3 this year for Fev, next year it may only be Pick 8.

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Synbad - you should know better than to put words in my mouth - I have not said that I expect lance to blitz - what I expect is consistency on the field (ie go missing less - see last 7 rounds as opposed to earlier in the year) and for him to help in the development of younger players on the field (which he does to an extent now) - If setanta plays seniors next year (which I suspect he might for extended periods), It will be more beneficial to have lance their directing him where to run and how to created space as opposed to having Fev there screaming kick it to me. In that respect I'd settle for 1.5 goals/game from lance in the forward line whilst having setanta there full time to learn on field positioning rather than 2.5/game from Fev.

What I do expect is for lance to improve on this years performance next year (as he is capable of when injury free etc) - if not, I would be prepared to trade him if contracts became an issue.

Should still get a good result trading him? After playing him while injured, leaking to the media everything he does wrong and the coach coming out and saying that they don't have the same 'principles' it would be amazing if anyone wanted him at all.

The anger on this forum directed at Brendan is astounding. People forget, Brendan is an enigma...you're not going to get a perfect role model out of him, just an amazingly outstanding talent that wins premierships. He doesn't want to be a leader, why should we force that out of him? I know he's a senior player and should be a role model, but he isn't. Does this mean we should trade such an elite talent? Yet keep leeches like Lappin (especially), Camporeale and Whitnall?

If he has a destabilising effect on the club after we keep him on another year then I could not agree with keeping him, and we'd get very well reimbursed compared to a trade this year either way. I don't agree he does have a destablising effect though, that comes from the 'leadership group' who do anything but

Well said Fevolaaaa

So its one rule for some and another rule for others? Perhaps after I've won a Nobel Prize I can go about raping and pillaging? I mean why should I have to tow the line if I'm an enigma

Also your comments about lappin being THE leech show how little you actually know. Even synbad, who sees himself leading the charge against exploitation of the club has publically stated that he feels sorry for the position that lappin is in atm. But then again, what should we expect - unless the players name is Fevola, they are all leeching off the club

I went to SOS'S testimonial a few years ago and the obvious highlight of the night was when SOS got up to reply to all of the speeches on the night, .

I was a little late getting back into the room and had to stand near the door to listen.
Over my shoulder was Brendan chatting up the waitress all through SOS's speech, all of our other players were in the room listening, Brendan showed no respect for SOS, now no respect for Big Nick and he didnt know who Jezza was when he came to the club.

Brendan will never bleed for the jumper, time to go.

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edit, I just realised I dont even need to win the Nobel Prize before I go off raping and pillaging - all I need is to have the potential to do so (the requirements of which I have pretty much satisfied) - ahhh, the joys of being an enigma

Fevola were you calling Lappin a leech when he stayed loyal to the club after Black Friday???

No contract and Richmond offered him more money but leech that he is he decided to stay. How quickly some forget.

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that is because Lappin isnt an engima

No that's exactly what I remember, that's my point. I was happy that he stayed, but thoroughly unhappy with the way he went about it. He was forced to take a pay cut just like every other player so we wouldn't go over the cap in the changeover, yet it was mainly he that caused all the publicity etc. Was pleased he stayed, would hope he would not hold the club to ransom in his next deal like he is attempting to do

Oh and to save you posting 'enigma' again, yes I do believe we should perhaps approach this situation differently than with ordinary players, because he is anything but an ordinary player. He's a complete elite talent, far more than the others up for discussion in this list. He's worth the extra work because the possible payoffs are extreme (see the Wizard Cup, the one time he's played in an in form team, injury free in the past few years)