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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:42 pm 
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If he gets suspended is he still elegible for the Rising Star?

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I also agree with Verbs 100%.

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Nope. Fevola did exactly what would be expected in the circumstances. Make contact. Make hard contact. It was high, but not unusually high. Kirk ducked his head. He saw Fevola coming and crouched. Fevola hit him with his stomach...not his hip, not his shoulder, not his fist, not his foot...stomach. He didn't even leave the ground, merely kept running at Kirk who shat himself and dropped the ball before Fevola had even touched him.

Free kick yes. Fifty is iffy. Suspension is wrong.


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Surely we can finally stop bending over for the AFL?

Every other club seems to have the balls to go to the tribunal and have it canned. Why not us?

In a way I'd rather lose Fev for 2 weeks than be Schwab's whipping boy?

What happens if Murphy gets pinged on a bullshit charge? ust like Thornton did 3 years ago for tapping into an umpire, or Waite when Crawford ducked into a tackle?

How is that right? We've done our time as the league's whipping boys. It's time for a new Carlton to stand up and show some balls.


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Exactly what verbs said. If Kirk hadn't have ducked his head when he heard footsteps, then it would have only been a free kick. To report him for this is ridiculous. He had his hand out to soften the blow as well. I hope they contest it. Even if he gets dudded & gets 2 weeks I would still prefer them to contest it. Surely he should get off..

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If he doesn't appeal does this mean he will be ineligble for the NRS?


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If this is what Caroline Wilson means by "good working relationship with the AFL" they can stick it up their arse.

The only thing I want to work is the body's of Demetrispew, Anderson and co into wet cement. :roll:

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his not out yet, if he accepts he gets a week and if he challenges it which i think Carlton will he can get off and play against the hawks. Am i right our am i wrong?


Fox Footy said club are likely to accept the week.


Saw on the tele this morning the Carlton are appealing...


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Barry Hall got nothing for punching that st kilda player in the breadbasket last year.

Fevola contests a ball - he gets a week.

This tribunal is a joke. no consistency

If you play for Syd. or Essendon* you seem to get a get out of jail free card.

What is happening to Johnson from Essendon*...where is the media attention on that?


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I apologise in advance if I am going over material already posted in this thread, but I cant be bothered going through every page!

The report on Fev has been classified with the following elements (the incident was assessed as negligent conduct, medium impact, in play and high contact drawing 125 demerit points)

- negligent conduct - perhaps this is appropriate but given that a lot of charges have been downgraded to reckless (ala Medhurst on Hoops) then a case might be available here. There appears to be a bit of difficulty distinguishing between negligent and reckless and is always open to appeal.
- medium impact - i suppose so...
- in play - yep
- high contact - having had a look at the front on vision of the incident, Fevola doesn't actually make initial contact with the head. He runs into Kirk's shoulder. I think that the majority of the contact (or the significant part) was with the shoulder and there should not be deemed as high contact. I believe grounds for appeal.

I am not sure whether you can appeal two classifications (?) but I believe Brendan will need to have both downgraded to escape suspension because he has so many carry over points.

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Over the shoulder, or on top, would have to be deemed as high contact. Imagine tackling a player and placing your arm over the opponent's shoulder, you'd get pinged for too high. Best to appeal the ngligent/reckless classification IMO.

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Camelboy, it is high contact in relation to a freekick. But in the context of a report, I thought high contact only constituted contact to the head?

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Camelboy, it is high contact in relation to a freekick. But in the context of a report, I thought high contact only constituted contact to the head?


Yep, makes sense.

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marciblue wrote:
I apologise in advance if I am going over material already posted in this thread, but I cant be bothered going through every page!

The report on Fev has been classified with the following elements (the incident was assessed as negligent conduct, medium impact, in play and high contact drawing 125 demerit points)

- negligent conduct - perhaps this is appropriate but given that a lot of charges have been downgraded to reckless (ala Medhurst on Hoops) then a case might be available here. There appears to be a bit of difficulty distinguishing between negligent and reckless and is always open to appeal.
- medium impact - i suppose so...
- in play - yep
- high contact - having had a look at the front on vision of the incident, Fevola doesn't actually make initial contact with the head. He runs into Kirk's shoulder. I think that the majority of the contact (or the significant part) was with the shoulder and there should not be deemed as high contact. I believe grounds for appeal.

I am not sure whether you can appeal two classifications (?) but I believe Brendan will need to have both downgraded to escape suspension because he has so many carry over points.


Not only is the contact not high, but as he makes contact he actually protects Kirks head but pushing his hand into Kirk's shoulder and holding his body off his head. That's not negligent.

If we can't beat this we're doing somthing wrong.


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This AFL is giving me the absolute shits...What about the crude and negligent arm around Teagues throat from that big good for nothing Pansy Hall. Teague was just running past him the ball wasn't anywhere near them and he coat hangered Teague....Suprise Suprise it's Sydney the worst team ever to win a flag....But I guess Andrew Dementia is very happy not to upset the *edited*



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Action should be deemed accidental therefore not reportable.

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On first seeing the incident, I thought Fevola was going to cop at least three weeks, but having since seen the television replay, I think the penalty is about right.

Like it or not, what he did was stupid and reckless, and it had real potential to cause damage.

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I love the new tribunal. It's so transparent.

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No appeal...Fevola accepts 1 week suspension according to SEN news


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