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Crusader
 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 3:43 pm 
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Another re-injury.

Not necessarily. The diagnosis might be the same as it was a month ago - scope, clean out, 8-12 weeks.

They might’ve given him the chance to try and manage it through finals.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
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Another re-injury.

Not necessarily. The diagnosis might be the same as it was a month ago - scope, clean out, 8-12 weeks.

They might’ve given him the chance to try and manage it through finals.


That's what I think too.

The prognosis wasnt good.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
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I don’t think Kennedy is in the same boat. Pretty sure he went in for the scope, so it’s ‘just’ a question of scar tissue & conditioning.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
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I don’t think Kennedy is in the same boat. Pretty sure he went in for the scope, so it’s ‘just’ a question of scar tissue & conditioning.


He did the medial, and has been running for 3 weeks so he must be pretty much ready to play.

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I still get nervous when the injury thread gets bumped - I’m just waiting for the bad news.


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https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/1413415/injury-news-five-aiming-to-return-update-on-silvagni
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HERE’S where things stand from a Carlton injury perspective leading into Round 24.

Jack Silvagni (knee)

- Experienced a second joint sprain in his knee during his return through the VFL on the weekend
- Will be unavailable against GWS
- His return to play will become clear by next week once the Club works through the best approach to his rehabilitation

Lachie Fogarty (soreness), Adam Cerra (hamstring), Sam Walsh (hamstring), Matt Kennedy (knee) and Mitch McGovern (hamstring)

- All players are aiming to be available for selection against GWS
- All will need to complete full training later in the week to be available to play

Feel for Jack but great news on the rest... just in time

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Andrew Russell sucking on his pipe right now.......
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On the Prendercast they were talking about Jack Martin's wife helping him find a specialist in Sydney to sort out his calf issues, after losing patience with the club's approach. Anyone know if there's any substance to that?
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If/when Blues make GF, Silvagni just has to be there - he HAS to.

Even if it's last 10 minute sub - wheelchair, crutches or not.

I watched his Grandfather and Father play in GFs - it's a Carlton Tradition pre-requisite we see him too.
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If/when Blues make GF, Silvagni just has to be there - he HAS to.

Even if it's last 10 minute sub - wheelchair, crutches or not.

I watched his Grandfather and Father play in GFs - it's a Carlton Tradition pre-requisite we see him too.


Yeah , me too . Agree Ghost . Premierships and Carlton Football Club greatness is in the Silvagni DNA .

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No way, everyone should be picked on merit. Imagine telling a 100% fit Kennedy (for example) that he was out of the 23 for the GF because a 50% fit JSOS was being picked for historical reasons.

If JSOS is 100% then he'd be in my team. If not, he can bloody well wait for #18 like everyone else. What's another 12 months between friends?
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There was a bit of a controversy when SOS was overlooked for selection in the 1986 Grand Final team, but he was there in 1987.


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[quote="AGRO"]There was a bit of a controversy when SOS was overlooked for selection in the 1986 Grand Final team, but he was there in 1987.


And I have a vague memory he played in 86 ressies gf and was near BOG ?
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GreatEx wrote:
On the Prendercast they were talking about Jack Martin's wife helping him find a specialist in Sydney to sort out his calf issues, after losing patience with the club's approach. Anyone know if there's any substance to that?


Yes, there was a news article recently where he was quoted saying this.
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GreatEx wrote:
On the Prendercast they were talking about Jack Martin's wife helping him find a specialist in Sydney to sort out his calf issues, after losing patience with the club's approach. Anyone know if there's any substance to that?


Yes, there was a news article recently where he was quoted saying this.



thats is a real concern

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 Post subject: Injury thread 2023
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No it’s not. If true, it shows that AR won’t let pride or a need to control prevent optimal treatment for our players.
He can’t be the expert on everything.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
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GreatEx wrote:
No way, everyone should be picked on merit. Imagine telling a 100% fit Kennedy (for example) that he was out of the 23 for the GF because a 50% fit JSOS was being picked for historical reasons.

If JSOS is 100% then he'd be in my team. If not, he can bloody well wait for #18 like everyone else. What's another 12 months between friends?



I would have SOS as my sub only if 95-100% fit for a Grand Final.

I get where Ghost is coming from. Somewhere from the heart and soul. I thought I felt the same, but we have to be pragmatic.

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bender wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
GreatEx wrote:
On the Prendercast they were talking about Jack Martin's wife helping him find a specialist in Sydney to sort out his calf issues, after losing patience with the club's approach. Anyone know if there's any substance to that?


Yes, there was a news article recently where he was quoted saying this.



thats is a real concern


https://twitter.com/cleary_mitch/status ... 3959112704
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Nice one, cheers. Well at least it's out in the open, not exactly going behind the club's back there. Important thing is he's stringing games together and giving our forward line an almighty boost. Fingers crossed those calves stay intact until October.
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17th Premiership wrote:
No it’s not. If true, it shows that AR won’t let pride or a need to control prevent optimal treatment for our players.
He can’t be the expert on everything.


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100% agree with this. AR is a fitness / high performance guru. He's not a specialist doctor/physio/surgeon. There are people for more quaified in resolving problematic soft tissue injuries. It's common for athletes to look outside their club to find the highest level of expertise for these issues, with many even going overseas.

The only thing that perhaps a bit disappointing is that this was not initiated by AR or the club. It shouldn't be up to the player or player's partner to seek external advice. The high performance team should recognise when they're out of their depth.

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