From my perspective (which is ever so limited) I believe we should:
Take the first four draft picks up to and including pick 67, elevate Ellard, White and Garlett. Therefore, seven players must make way, so with Wiggins and Hadley retirements the other five would be Fisher, Anderson, Brown, Johnson and Tiller.
I definitely would not take the risk of trying to re rookie Austin and O'Keefe, but probably would risk it for Donaldson, if they want to keep him, that is. Donaldson would have to be delisted as only Casboult, Cachia and Dare can be retained in addition to Touhi and Labi (I believe).

Gold Tommi........Gold

ANDERSON HAS A NEW 2 YEAR CONTRACT STOP DELISTING HIM

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Ando is on Tommi's ship - undelistable!

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Has this been confirmed? If so, who else could be delisted instead: Scotland, Setanta, Thornton?
For me, it would be a huge mistake not to give O'Keefe or Austin another year.
If we don't plan to use pick 67 on a new player, why was it part of the Jacobs trade?
In fact, if we don't use pick 70, too, trading for pick 67 would seem to have little benefit.
If we intend to use pick 67 and only delist four players, then only Ellard and Garlett can be promoted.
Therefore, one of White, Cachia, Dare and Casboult must be delisted as only three can be kept.
I think they have all shown something so I don't think I would take the risk.

Delisting Cachia or Dare would have less chance of anyone drafting or selecting them as rookies that Casboult or White imo.
Then we could re rookie them. Less risk that way instead of delisting experienced uncontracted players like Scotland and Setanta.

Not doubting NT Blue for one minute. He heard what he heard. BUT...just because Ando's uncle told NT Blue about the 2 year contract doesn't mean that its happened; maybe that's what his manager was negotiating and it hasn't come to fruition. Or, its not a good enough news story for the Blues to get some media coverage. If that's the case why would they re sign him and say nothing? Scared he'll be taken by another team? Don't think so.
Just a thought.

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Weren't Geelong annoyed when we nabbed Darey? If we delisted him they could get even for Ladler.

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No way should Austin be axed... It's not his fault injury ruined his 2010.. He did show some good signs when he played seniors in 2009, and the fact we're still light on for Key Position talent should see him safe for 2011...

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If the Anderson deal hasn't been announced, then in treating it as rumour only.

I think Hadley's retirement has helped him, but I still believe he is on the chopping block.

Some great efforts for the club, but doesn't offer enough class.
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Dare is an interesting one - I was excited when we got him, but haven't kept track of his progress in Ants unfortunately. Could be one that we need to take a punt on, as there may well be some interest from elsewhere in the rookie draft

Not doubting anyones info on here, but I'm not so sure he has got a contract yet.
I know this doesn't sound very credible but my mate grew up with Anderson up North.
I sent him a message saying he got a new contract when I read it on here. He then sent a text to Joey to congratulate him.
Joey called him back and didn't know what he was talking about. Unless Joe has been told to keep it quiet until the club decides to announce list movement??

Either way we'll find out soon. I think he will get another 2 years.

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If it is true that Anderson has been given a 2 year contract, that is ridiculous!!! Poor decision maker and nothing more than a list clogger.
By the way how is O' Hailpin still contracted. Crazy to think he was given a 2 year contract at the end of last year. Because this guy is from Ireland we allow him to have 7 years in the system in hope that he will one day develop into a player. He will never be a good player and should be shown the door.
If we are fair dinkum Fisher, Johnson, Browne, Anderson, O'Hailpin, Austin should all be delisted. Thornton deserves to play out his contract. He has busted his gut in defence while we were a rabble and now Ratts refuses to play him because he doesn't provide run and moves side to side. Surely Ratts can work with Thornton and work on his weaknesses. I believe Thornton is still in our best 22.

Why do people want to delist Austin?

A few misguided souls were cut that we didn't pick Talia to get a KPP, yet a 21 year old tall such as Austin should be sent packing after he played well in the VFL GF. Austin has the athleticism, bravery and size to play across half back, but has been up and down due to injury.

I can't wait for the online fapping and back slapping if we pick talls with picks 18, 33 and 41.

New has to be better.

If Austin will make a full recovery from the OP that's been holding him back for quite a while now then he has to be kept on the list surely.

But Setanta has been a good player for us in those 7 years.
I thought his first half this year was fantastic.
I'm not a huge fan of his as I use to be, but I am not a huge fan of what we have to offer for CHB.
We didn't get our big bidied KPD as we intended during the trade period; that's why I think we did and should retain Setanta.
Beggars can't be choosers.
Perhaps next year we can snag a CHB during trade week, and then Setanta would have to have had a really good 2011 and earn your admiration....and respect.

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Any chance we may get rid of Houlihan? Is he contracted?
If we're planning on playing games for Collins + Garlett, Yarran, Lucas & Kerr why waste a spot with an inconsistent player who will be up for review during/after 2011 anyway. We can get the same from the youngsters whilst getting valuable games experience into them at the same time.
Carrazzo can cover the defensive forward role if needed, as can Mitch, and I don't think it was a loss without him in the team late in 2010.
If Walker goes up forward then there's one less spot for Patches in the fwd50 to take up, with Betts, Kreuzer/Warnock/Hampson, Henderson, Waite, Yarran, Garlett, Collins, Robinson + midfielders rotating through there.
Bullants/back up ony for mine.

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austin is a must keep he will come good,be patient.
browne is still young he deserves more time.
with anderson i couldnt agree more with you,poor decision maker,looks slow with the ball,disposal is ordinary and for someone who is meant to have pace,well i cant see it.
houlihan i gave up on in 2009,many will say he did agood job as a defensive fwd but seriously after 10 years his application doesnt match his skills,if he hangs on 2011 will be his last.

disagree re Houlihan.
We missed him when he went down injured in the 2nd half of the year.
Has class (we all know that but...) has shown consistency on the field and more competitiveness in the last 2 seasons.
think he balances and our forward line well - the talls, the quick goal sneaks and him, tying them all together.

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