When he signed the MULTI YEAR contract Campo was certainly in the same ball park as Simon Black, Ricciutto, Cousins as one of the premier AFL midfielders. If Mike Sheehans top 50 is any indication, Campo was constantly in the top 15 players int he comp and got paid accordingly. Unfortuantely, he signed a LONG TERM contract. He hence had to CHANGE HIS GAME STYLE when the inside midfielders (Ratten, Brown etc) left and also had to turn himself into a leader when he perhaps wasnt born to be one.

The ramifications of this are displayed in 2005, when he is struggling without champion midfielders to feed off and show his class, and is similiarly attempting to be a leader that he wasnt born to be. Is this his fault? Do we tell him to take ANOTHER pay cut because of this? Or will next years pay packet be enough of a wake up call for him?

I think it will.

What does the fine print say, I havent got my glasses?

13th in average tackles per game.

BTW, you asked for tackles per game average, thats what you got.
But I'm sure if we asked for the most tackles by a Carlton player whose name starts with C, who comes from South Australia and who wears number 16, Campo would be number 1!

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Now come on Josh, you dont really believe that stuff do you?

For the record, I'd be delighted to see Campo hit his straps.
I'd much rather see him playing good footy for Carlton next year than going elsewhere but I think the club deserves more from him now than what he's delivering.

As I stated elsewhere, he's not on his own there.

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2004- LEADING TACKLER for the CFC

Maybe he is 13th in average tackles per game because he is playing mostly on a Half Back Flank???

Thats why I said we shouldnt even mention stats. For this very reason.

straw......................grasp................

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I would suggest there is a fair gap between Riccuito, Black, Cousins and Campo....back then and now...Mike Sheahans top 50 isnt the redbook/glasses guide of players as far as I see it and I think you are drawing a long bow comparing these players ..two of which have a brownlow and the other a leading candidate for one this year...
Riccuito was a bad comparison as he is everything Campo is not and exactly the sort of player we need and in my opinion ultra consistent, shows leadership and gives confidence to his teammates...apples and oranges...

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I'm guessing the writer was good ol' Mr Rucci

Riccuito has been rotated on and off the ground a lot more this year than previous years

Its hard to be leading the club in tackles when you're not playing in the thick of the action. Its why the leading tacklers are all midfielders.

Not really straw grasping.

hmmm.
Davies is number 2.
Where does he play?
What about Waite, Teague, Lappin, McGrath, Wiggins, Longmuir.
They all average more than Campo.
Whats their excuse.

Heres some more straws.

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hehehehe, ZING!

somebody POW this man

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Oh, and one more stat for Synbad and his "is campo in the top 20% of anything" question.

For Season 2005 Camporeale is currently ranked 13th in the entire league for goal assists.

Even better he is ranked 4th in the entire league for Scoring Assists. So he gets the ball to the goalkickers but they have obviously been quite innacurate.

Even taking out half the players each week 11x16 = 176 players each week with a good chance to be involved in goal assists. That is still easily top 10%.

http://www.prowess-sports.com/pro-stats ... ofweek.pdf

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Last year he lead the club, this year he isnt tackling as much as last. Playing in the backline mostly could be one of the factors for this. However, as Jarusa just pointed out, he is ranked 13th for goal assists and 4th in scoring assists for the LEAGUE. Those stats more then compensate for his slide in the tackling department, and again indicate his worth to the team.
Once again for BV who may have foolishly dumped me in the I love Campo camp- he is NOT worth the 475 K he is on at the moment. His output probably doesnt go anywhere near this figure.
HOWEVER, and its a big however, this is NOT Campos fault. He is playing to the BEST of his ability, has already taken pay cuts, is helping out the younge blokes in the team, can not be blamed for being offered a contract that dictated his market value at the time and will, as Ive said many times, be given a reality check come the end of the year.

Stop using Campo as your scapegoat to the teams poor performances. As Synners would say, look deeper within the surface.

But I thought he'd changed his game?
You said he'd become a midfielder who "concentrates on tackles"!
Suddenly he's a half back flanker who concentrates on goal assists!
What was he in 2003 when his tackles were non existent?
Or 2002?

BTW, Where have I used Campo as a scapegoat for anything?
You made some innaccurate and poorly researched claims and I refuted them.
Is that the way it works?
You fabricate scenarios and if anyone disputes them they are using Campo as a scapegoat.
If you are going to tell posters they are wrong and quote inside knowledge, it may pay to be factual in your claims.

BTW, I am not "dumping you" in any camp.
You however should practice what you preach.

Teague is ahead of Campo in tackles, he has spent 5 minutes in the midfield this year. Campo has spent hours.
Your logic is flawed.

Again.

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Now there's a novel idea.

When in Rome.

BV has been quite correct in his assessment, read his stuff carefully, it is very well worded and is always very well considered. He is in no way blaming campo for the majority of our ills.

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The usual response from someone who has nothing substantial to add.

Thank you Jarusa.
I try not to make emotive claims about players, I offer their statistical data to see if it complements or refutes assessments.
If the statistics are less than flattering, so be it.
It doesnt mean I am "anti" that player.

Why do people need to be "against" a player or "in their camp"?
Why cant we make assessments on an ongoing basis and accept posters rights to do so.
I am viewed by some as anti Campo but if you go back over my posts, I've been fairer than most.

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A typical response from someone with a giant ego. Jarusa knew I wasn't talking about you BV, hence his witty remark. Unfortunately your inflated self-centred manner meant you thought it's all about you. Me. Me. Me. How good am I. Verbs is the best. Blah blah blah.

So you quoted me, responded to me.................but you werent talking about me?

Must be my giant ego at work.
Or perhaps your humour is too intellectual for my comprehension?

Can anyone let me know what I've missed?
Jarusa?..........were you being facetious, witty or responding to a post?

You've made 4 posts in this thread Verbs and once again not one has anything to do with the topic being discussed.
If you dont want to discuss the topic, why the cheap shots?
Just dont get involved.

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