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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:01 pm 
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Watch his second half...forget the opposition. He just wants to get his hands on the ball and be involved. I reckon we've got ourselves a beauty!!


I will watch the replay later but I agree. I think he will be one of those hard working mids every side needs.


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I thought it was a great chance for Jaksch, Menzel, Whiley & Dick to step up and show something against a weak opposition and they were mostly disappointing.


:eek: :?


:? What are you getting at?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:02 pm 
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Jaksch knows what he needs to do. Goal is to put 4-5 kg on before next season and will spend a lot of time in the Gym this off season.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:04 pm 
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mikkey wrote:
Jaksch knows what he needs to do. Goal is to put 4-5 kg on before next season and will spend a lot of time in the Gym this off season.



Doesn't look like he spent too long in there last off season. :wink: :razz:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:21 pm 
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AGRO wrote:
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Jaksch knows what he needs to do. Goal is to put 4-5 kg on before next season and will spend a lot of time in the Gym this off season.



Doesn't look like he spent too long in there last off season. :wink: :razz:


These things are done with the Club. He is very young too. Assume there was greater emphasis on fitness last year. The boy has a great attitude. Tall skinny players take time to develope.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:07 am 
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Jack Watts outscored Cripps by 12 points in that points system thingy.

Pretty much on account of frees for and against.


What a joke that points system can be.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 3:57 am 
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I enjoyed that a lot. Well done Baggers.

My biggest concern is that we really don't have any of our key positions locked down for the future. Jamo nearly finished, Rowe just ok, Henderson gone and Casboult still a question mark IMO. Jacksh too and probably not a real key position player.

Seems to me it will take us a long time to build that spine....


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:57 am 
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Teddy Hopkins wrote:
Interesting that no one in this thread has pointed out that a choice of Weitering v Schache is more important than a meaningless win at the end of a lousy season.




Except me, now. :smile:



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:27 am 
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Cripps handballing is a sight to behold. Reminds me so much of Greg Williams. He almost forces his teammates to a certain position, some still being caught by surprise when the ball comes to an area they least expect it. Breaks the game open.

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fmurphy30 wrote:
Curious trivia bit: when was the last time an AFL game was coached by two ex-Fitzroy footballers (Roos and Barker)?

Won't happen again.


Hinkley/lyon

And then i reckon 1995. Walls v quinlan

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bluehammer wrote:
fmurphy30 wrote:
Curious trivia bit: when was the last time an AFL game was coached by two ex-Fitzroy footballers (Roos and Barker)?

Won't happen again.


Hinkley/lyon

And then i reckon 1995. Walls v quinlan

How about next week?

Freo vs Shemons

Roos v Lyon :donk:


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:43 am 
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bluedog wrote:
Jack Watts outscored Cripps by 12 points in that points system thingy.

Pretty much on account of frees for and against.


What a joke that points system can be.


But Cripps outscored Watts by 43 in a different points system thingy which puts greater value on effectiveness, contested ball and scoreboard contribution....

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Blueboy74 wrote:
bluedog wrote:
Jack Watts outscored Cripps by 12 points in that points system thingy.

Pretty much on account of frees for and against.


What a joke that points system can be.


But Cripps outscored Watts by 43 in a different points system thingy which puts greater value on effectiveness, contested ball and scoreboard contribution....



Then we should ignore that one most of the time. We Are Carlton: we aren't for effectiveness and scoreboard contribution


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I must admit I came away from the 'G yesterday with mixed feelings about the win. I know the players aren't robots and needed the win, but I can't help thinking that winning wasn't in our longer term best interests...

Anyway, I thought we were gone when Melbourne kicked the first goal of the last quarter. It was heartening that we held on to win from there with Murphy, Jamo & Kreuzer off the ground. We were a bit lucky though - Melbourne had more scoring shots and pretty much dominated from the moment Murphy went off. Hogan got his hands to it a number of times in the last term and they didn't quite stick. The Dees really should have run over us.

Cripps is an absolute pleasure to watch. His improvement from 12 months ago is nothing short of remarkable. I just hope we don't kill him....

Boekhorst showing some good signs. Tuohy had a better game and Rowe rediscovered his 2014 form. Kreuzer was mighty, especially in the first half. What was his injury? Hamstring?

Watson, Whiley, Tutt & Dick aren't up to it IMO, but credit to them for making contributions to the win. Whiley in particular worked super hard. All 4 should play the last couple of games.

Ellard will probably get a game by default next week (Murphy injured) but surely he will get delisted at season's end.

Menzel was a non-contributor for most of the game, but I thought he did a couple of good things in the last quarter. Hopefully he pulls up OK and can finish the year with some confidence.

Someone posted earlier that Everitt picks & chooses. I couldn't agree more and I think we've seen a number of times this year that he is suspect when the heat is on.

Hogan for them will be a superstar, but has anyone else noticed a bit of FIGJAM about him? He seems to give his teammates a lot of sprays and his body language isn't always great if the delivery to him isn't perfect. I guess that can happen with a highly talented (and head strong?) player in an average/poor team. You don't see Cripps doing it though :wink:

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aboynamedsue wrote:
Hogan for them will be a superstar, but has anyone else noticed a bit of FIGJAM about him? He seems to give his teammates a lot of sprays and his body language isn't always great if the delivery to him isn't perfect. I guess that can happen with a highly talented (and head strong?) player in an average/poor team. You don't see Cripps doing it though :wink:



typical key forward behaviour really. blame everyone else around them when they can't get a touch, let alone impact the scoreboard.

it's why i would totally unbiasedly pick cripps for the RS. haha


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:40 am 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
I must admit I came away from the 'G yesterday with mixed feelings about the win. I know the players aren't robots and needed the win, but I can't help thinking that winning wasn't in our longer term best interests...

Anyway, I thought we were gone when Melbourne kicked the first goal of the last quarter. It was heartening that we held on to win from there with Murphy, Jamo & Kreuzer off the ground. We were a bit lucky though - Melbourne had more scoring shots and pretty much dominated from the moment Murphy went off. Hogan got his hands to it a number of times in the last term and they didn't quite stick. The Dees really should have run over us.

Cripps is an absolute pleasure to watch. His improvement from 12 months ago is nothing short of remarkable. I just hope we don't kill him....

Boekhorst showing some good signs. Tuohy had a better game and Rowe rediscovered his 2014 form. Kreuzer was mighty, especially in the first half. What was his injury? Hamstring?

Watson, Whiley, Tutt & Dick aren't up to it IMO, but credit to them for making contributions to the win. Whiley in particular worked super hard. All 4 should play the last couple of games.

Ellard will probably get a game by default next week (Murphy injured) but surely he will get delisted at season's end.

Menzel was a non-contributor for most of the game, but I thought he did a couple of good things in the last quarter. Hopefully he pulls up OK and can finish the year with some confidence.

Someone posted earlier that Everitt picks & chooses. I couldn't agree more and I think we've seen a number of times this year that he is suspect when the heat is on.

Hogan for them will be a superstar, but has anyone else noticed a bit of FIGJAM about him? He seems to give his teammates a lot of sprays and his body language isn't always great if the delivery to him isn't perfect. I guess that can happen with a highly talented (and head strong?) player in an average/poor team. You don't see Cripps doing it though :wink:


Sums it up perfectly for me although I still have hope for Whiley.

I commented about Everitt being lazy. Has talent but really picks and chooses. A number of times I thought he could impact the contest and just stood back.

Agree about Hogan but I'd like him in our forward line.

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GreatEx wrote:
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Did Watto just open the door for another year? Covered the ground very well today, and if you kick the ball within 5 metres of him he at least brings it to ground. Neutralised a 1v3 at one point.


He's a good player trapped in a desperately unathletic body... belongs to another era. I like him but can't see him making it in the AFL.

Well he is ahead of liam jones and ahead of hendo now. So l think he makes it in the afl by default next season. So you can say hes made afl :) l actually liksd what l saw from him yesterday. He looked composed and not like a deer with headlights. I have seen two games of him in the last year. Yesterdays game and his 5 goal game at the end of last season. In both games he has been solid, so not sure why he hasnt played. We trialled him as a defender in majority of his game. Only last few l notice we played him as a forward where he has done well. Got nothing else going. Keep playing him


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I know some people will be less than happy with yesterday's win, and see it as pointless in the grand scheme of things, but two things put things into perspective for me:
1) The enthusiasm of the players, particularly the younger ones. They now know they can win without the Judd/Murphy/Gibbs safety blanket, and you can't put a price on that.
2) While it now looks likely we'll get pick 2 instead of pick 1 (unless of course the AFL delivers an idiotic PP), given the strong possibility Brisbane have made their mind up on Schache already, it'll then leave us with Weitering. Either way, we'll still either get the best KPD or KPF in this year's draft, and we're in need of both.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:11 am 
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Donstuie wrote:
1) The enthusiasm of the players, particularly the younger ones. They now know they can win without the Judd/Murphy/Gibbs safety blanket, and you can't put a price on that.


This is what gives me hope for what Carlton is trying to achieve. Kids bring enthusiasm and hope plus much needed talent. They are not shackled by the past and will play with some freedom. I like the way we are now not putting up with crap efforts and the acceptance of medicority is changing. Dropping Yarran, Menzel and cutting Henderson wouldn't of happened previously. Whether it is because of Barker or others I don't know but I like what is happening.

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aboynamedsue wrote:
I must admit I came away from the 'G yesterday with mixed feelings about the win. I know the players aren't robots and needed the win, but I can't help thinking that winning wasn't in our longer term best interests...

Anyway, I thought we were gone when Melbourne kicked the first goal of the last quarter. It was heartening that we held on to win from there with Murphy, Jamo & Kreuzer off the ground. We were a bit lucky though - Melbourne had more scoring shots and pretty much dominated from the moment Murphy went off. Hogan got his hands to it a number of times in the last term and they didn't quite stick. The Dees really should have run over us.

Cripps is an absolute pleasure to watch. His improvement from 12 months ago is nothing short of remarkable. I just hope we don't kill him....

Boekhorst showing some good signs. Tuohy had a better game and Rowe rediscovered his 2014 form. Kreuzer was mighty, especially in the first half. What was his injury? Hamstring?

Watson, Whiley, Tutt & Dick aren't up to it IMO, but credit to them for making contributions to the win. Whiley in particular worked super hard. All 4 should play the last couple of games.

Ellard will probably get a game by default next week (Murphy injured) but surely he will get delisted at season's end.

Menzel was a non-contributor for most of the game, but I thought he did a couple of good things in the last quarter. Hopefully he pulls up OK and can finish the year with some confidence.

Someone posted earlier that Everitt picks & chooses. I couldn't agree more and I think we've seen a number of times this year that he is suspect when the heat is on.

Hogan for them will be a superstar, but has anyone else noticed a bit of FIGJAM about him? He seems to give his teammates a lot of sprays and his body language isn't always great if the delivery to him isn't perfect. I guess that can happen with a highly talented (and head strong?) player in an average/poor team. You don't see Cripps doing it though :wink:


This really is a great summary! :clap:


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