bondiblue wrote:
GreatEx wrote:
Dodo27 wrote:
Funny, it was only 6 months a go that most Carlton supporters were praising Austin for such a Fantastic Draft Campaign and how well he handled the Charlie & TDK Exit.
There was only me & few others who knew what was coming.
I Said that Reidy is no good. If he was, he would be playing Seniors at Freo. I got shut down quickly by Supporters posting highlights of Reidy in the WAFL and the Screamers he was taking...
I said Hayward & Ainsworth are average players who will struggle at Carlton. I got shut down quickly by stating how Hayward kicked 30 Goals last year and how Ainsworth was turning it on at the Gold Coast!
As for Florent, no one knew that last year, he was already iced and left out of the Senior Side because Sydney knew he was past it!
If you declare everything as shit you're bound to get some right. Can you show any posts where you've made a positive prediction that came true?
I'll give you that Reidy isn't much good. We had to recruit a ruck, but maybe Flynn Riley or someone from state leagues would have sufficed. Reidy didn't cost much, but still looks a waste.
Ainsworth and Florent have been among our best players - you're welcome to disagree but TC MVP and Supercoach both agree - the eye test and the stat test. Hayward has been underwhelming so far but playing a different role. All 3 filled a gap in our age/ experience profile, as I've mentioned several times.
Bringing in these blokes for a half-arsed Curnow is not the problem, and I think it's still a good trade even if Sydney tops the ladder the next two years to put minimum value on the first round picks. Losing TDK and JSOS (at least while he's fit) have been more detrimental given our midfield and defensive capitulations.
But the biggest cause of our downfall by far is the shocking form of our key pillars: Weitering, Cripps and McKay. Our board-obsesssed friend keogh likes to talk about the fish rotting from the head, well it's certainly true in the microcosm of the football field.
Thanks GE
I think the last paragraph is the biggest concern. They have to improve or replaced. Finding a new star mid, star kPF and star FB isn’t as easy as it sounds, especially when we have other holes to fill, starting with ruck. Is there a cheap Grundy floating out there for the taking?
Look what Swans paid for Charlie. Doggies coukdnt find a FB when Jones got too old, until FS picks plugged them up, and where’s the next Lachie Neale or Dawson for a first round pick?
The hardest game in footy is attracting the best talent. Even harder for Carlton List Mgrs is picking the best talent with first round picks….gosh SOS fkd us up.
Our Key Pillar Players are a Huge Part of the Problem & the ongoing Fade outs every Week. Here is an outline of what has happened:
1- Lack of Leadership: Our Senior players are not leading from the front. There is very little communications, screaming, teaching and taking ownership when the other teams get their momentum.
2- Lack of Care: This is a Serious concern and is a direct product of my first Point. Many of our Senior players have already checked out. They don't seem to be interested anymore. There is something behind the scenes going on and no one wants to admit it nor talk about it.
My Guess and I am 99% certain I am right ( because of the close connection I have with some people within the club) is that our Senior Group have fallen badly with Voss. They are angry & Frustrated at him because of lack of Clarity & Game plan. This friction made the exit of SOS, Charlie & TDK alot easier for them.
I been told that the issue with VOSS goes all the way back to the way he handled Matt Kennedy and how he refused to give him time to play in the middle and develop and then the final punch of that last Game when Kennedy put the club ahead of his Family & went to play in Brisbane but was humiliated by Voss by getting subbed out. He was also made to play in the Ruck which further humiliated him. This has made some Senior players angry and the friction is still ongoing until today.
Weitering has totally lost interest. He is next in line. He won't be at Carlton next year. GH is another one where Voss continues to have beef with for no apparent reason. He will be seeking a Trade next year.
3- Our Senior players are getting old. They are not the same players as yesterday. There are some things they can no longer do on the footy field. Crippa is a perfect example. Age is catching up with him. The issue with him is that he refuses to admit it. He still wants to be the man. He still wants to do it all himself. This is not leadership, this is selfishness. When the team was getting smashed in the middle this week, last week and every previous week, Crippa refused to give up his spot to someone else. He, Wash & Cerra continued to be the main players in the middle. The Coaching Staff should have intervened and said We need to try something different. They didn't.
In addition to the Senior group, then you have the serious issue of bad Coaching, bad recruiting, bad management, poor Board decisions and you have all the ingredients for a total failure. Change is the only way to get us out of this mess.
The Club should have done what Melbourne did. Part ways with the Coach, Get rid of some senior players when they still had some currency in them, ie Cerra, McGovern, Williams & co. Instead, we got rid of good players who are now flourishing at other clubs.
You had me until the last paragraph, are Owies, Curnow, Durdin and JSOS really “flourishing” at other clubs? I don’t see any major improvement over when they were playing for us.
Melbourne got rid of Petracca and Oliver who ARE flourishing at other clubs.
We’ve changed coaches quickly before, it’s never worked this century, why will it work now? Let’s see how the demons are going this time next year. Remember, they have Max Gawn and Kysaiah, while we have Cripps and Walsh.
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