Cretylus wrote:
Steve_C7 wrote:
Cretylus wrote:
Wojee wrote:
Port have a decent gameplan, the players are very fit and they've had a pretty good run with injury.
They're still a couple of rungs below the top four teams.
No doubt they arent quite at the consistent level of the top 4, but they have managed to knock them off a few times.
They must be doing a lot of things right from top to bottom
We can learn from many teams - and Port is one of them
I would argue that Port is the one that has learnt from
US.
Tanking for picks has destroyed every facet of this football club. The difference between the top teams and the rest lies in culture, we were once the envy of the competition because only a premiership was accepted as a successful season. This gave direction to the board, the football department and the players of exactly what was expected from this club
We didn't embrace the draft because this would result in having to take a step backwards to move forwards which didn't fit with our ethos, so when we eventually had no choice but to embrace the draft, we threw out all our values and even conditioned our supporters into cheering for a high draft pick rather than the win.
Once Port realised that it was drifting into this mindset, where they could have topped up with a few more high draft picks by languishing on the bottom of the ladder for a couple years. They drew a line and sent a cry for help to its supporters, where Kochie came onboard to right the ship in the off field and ultimately Hinkley the on field.
So I'm sorry Cret, but our time to learn from Port has well and truly passed, when they came to the fork in the road, they looked at the road we and melbourne had taken and realised it lead to fools gold and rightly took the correct path. We realised a couple years ago (about same time as port) that we were down the wrong path and started the long walk back to the fork in the road which took to R16 this year. They however are still ahead of us, so now it's just a question of who travels down the path quicker that we can judge the winner.
This is the problem in a nut shell with our club
WE STILL believe that we do things better than anybody else, and are always at the forefront of the game - innovating and taking risks.
We really haven't done anything radical as a club since the early 1990s which set up the 1995 flag. (Parkin giving the playing group ownership of the game tactics and match ups etc and a large rotating midfield)
We still use the silver bullet approach - GET Pagan, or GET Mick, GET JUDD, GET Daisy. Things will flow from there, Silver bullets dont work anymore.
Clubs need to get almost every aspect of their organisation on and off the field, SPOT ON and the club working as a committed unit that values honesty, courage, creativity and hard work etc....
This is not about any other club or individual - its about what we have been doing over the past 20 years to stay at the forefront of success rather than fall back into the pack and live in the safe world of mediocrity, timidness and self pity
Please read my post again.
I said that Port learnt from our
mistakes and didn't compromise their culture for draft picks. At no stage did I refer that we are doing thing better than anyone else, quite the contrary.
I don't agree that the club has taken a silver bullet approach since sacking Ratten, but rather a methodological and tactical one.
Get Mick - why? because we have developed a poor culture and we chose to recruit a coach whose values and discipline are well known. This was not about premiership window rather that we wanted a mature coach who would be respected to successfully achieve the standards of commitment that the top teams expect as a given.
Get Daisey - Mick felt that our on field leadership lacked a voice and daisey was recruited with the view that once he overcome his injuries that he would add to the midfield and defensive depth that we lack. Whilst he builds his fitness base, his on field communication would set the standard for the rest of our players and try and break the mould of our introverted personality. Anyone who has watched the game live will be well aware of how much more vocal our players are now in comparison to the beginning of the year.
Further to that we have recruited guys like Docherty and Everitt who add depth to the squad and bring a competitive spirit whilst demoting flakey players (lucas, waite) so that all players are clear of what is expected from them. Young players were left to earn a spot and not gifted games just to appease fans, this also sets the bar and adds consistency to the message 100% effort 100% of the time.
So where are we at now?
Build team spirit - tick
Build culture of success - commenced and should be achieved next season for the narrow losses become wins
Build membership - Not started, really need a complete overhaul during this off season
Fight for top 4 - not started, but all going well should be able to achieve over next 3-4 years
Premiership window - Realistically 4 years at earliest if we pickup enough talent over the next 3 drafts