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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:01 pm 
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Adam Chatfield wrote:
Here is my assessment of the list:

Good/very good/keep: Murph, Gibbs, Judd, Jamo, Hendo, Army, Garlett, Betts, Yaz, Walker, Waite, Scotland, McLean, Simpson, Carrazzo, Tuohy

Young but will/should make it: Menzel, McInnes, Bootsma

Unknown: Graham, Temay

Average but need to be replaced by better: White, Ellard, Curnow, Cachia

On notice/trade: Robbo, Kreuzer, Hampson, Warnock, Casboult (trade 2 of the 4), Lucas

Probably gone/wont make it: Mitchell, Watson, McCarthy (what a 2010 draft), Buckley, Bell, Laidler

Definitely Gone: Duigan, Davies, Joseph, Dale, Collins, Rowe, O'Keeffe


Personally I disagree about White, Bell & Lucas but a fairly good summation IMO.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:07 pm 
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Sorry...explain why 20 year old Dylan Buckley has been added to these lists? Costs nothing, has upside, yet to be tested.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:09 pm 
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Potentially on the list.....

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:24 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
Sorry...explain why 20 year old Dylan Buckley has been added to these lists? Costs nothing, has upside, yet to be tested.


Hope your right Doc. I see bits from him that make me think he could be very good then he goes missing for long periods.

I am yet to be convinced either way. Happy for him to have another year but needs to start showing some consistency.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:36 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
Sorry...explain why 20 year old Dylan Buckley has been added to these lists? Costs nothing, has upside, yet to be tested.


He is like Brett Blackwell mark 2.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:37 pm 
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grrofunger wrote:
doesnt do it often enough

see whats on offer


Agree - Yarran for Jack Darling and a 2nd round pick in a heatbeat - Eagles need the pace.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:42 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
DocSherrin wrote:
Sorry...explain why 20 year old Dylan Buckley has been added to these lists? Costs nothing, has upside, yet to be tested.


Hope your right Doc. I see bits from him that make me think he could be very good then he goes missing for long periods.

I am yet to be convinced either way. Happy for him to have another year but needs to start showing some consistency.

You'd give him another season but its sink or swim.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:43 pm 
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If GWS want to trade their number 1 pick, I would propose giving them Kreuze, Hampson/Warnock (their choice) and Yarran. On the condition they throw in Jakesch as well.

We need to be aggressive trading, otherwise we will just tread water.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:44 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
DocSherrin wrote:
Sorry...explain why 20 year old Dylan Buckley has been added to these lists? Costs nothing, has upside, yet to be tested.


Hope your right Doc. I see bits from him that make me think he could be very good then he goes missing for long periods.

I am yet to be convinced either way. Happy for him to have another year but needs to start showing some consistency.

You'd give him another season but its sink or swim.


I agree with this.

Could we fool West Coast to take Lucas due to their lack of pace?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:52 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
DocSherrin wrote:
Sorry...explain why 20 year old Dylan Buckley has been added to these lists? Costs nothing, has upside, yet to be tested.


Hope your right Doc. I see bits from him that make me think he could be very good then he goes missing for long periods.

I am yet to be convinced either way. Happy for him to have another year but needs to start showing some consistency.


I remember saying the same thing about Kouta in the early 90's. Same age. Give the kid some pre-seasons before you write him off.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:56 pm 
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Adam Chatfield wrote:
DocSherrin wrote:
Sorry...explain why 20 year old Dylan Buckley has been added to these lists? Costs nothing, has upside, yet to be tested.


He is like Brett Blackwell mark 2.


A cross between Luke Blackwell and Brett Backwell?
Could be a bit of Gartlett thrown in as well...

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:58 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Adam Chatfield wrote:
DocSherrin wrote:
Sorry...explain why 20 year old Dylan Buckley has been added to these lists? Costs nothing, has upside, yet to be tested.


He is like Brett Blackwell mark 2.


A cross between Luke Blackwell and Brett Backwell?
Could be a bit of Gartlett thrown in as well...


Haha, im thinking the late 90s was Brett Backwell.

Both similar kinds of players though


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 3:16 pm 
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As well as the top end we also need players who work hard. Cachia stays, and although I wasn't a fan, Curnow is doing his job. Talk of trading Murphy is silly ... We'd never win on that trade. We wouldn't get return for our investment. People won't give up two first rounders and a top player again - Judd type deals are gone thanks to free agency.

We need to get rid of what we have excess of (a ruckman or Hampson :wink: ) and try to get into the top end of the draft. Load up with as many second rounders as we can. Cut the dead wood - Davies, etc. if we get a favourable deal for one of our players we would otherwise keep then consider it. Be smart and active in free agency to improve the list.

A Dale Thomas would have been handy last night, and don't need to cut deep into the list to get him.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:27 pm 
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We will certainly by active this trade period.
My changes would be;
delist- Watson, Collins, O'Keefe, McCarthy, Davies, Duigan, Joseph, Dale
Try to trade Hampson, Lucas
retiring Scotland.
This would free up about 8 spots on the list as some of these are rookies.
Upgrade Bell.
I would keep Buckley and Mitchell and maybe rather than delist Watson and McCarthy try to do a trade if anyone wants them.
Bring in a couple of free agents if anyone wants to come to our club.
We made only 3 changes last year because we were hamstrung with contracts. This year will be different.
By the way Betts is still to re-sign and may be considering his options as a free agent.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:36 pm 
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kezza wrote:
By the way Betts is still to re-sign and may be considering his options as a free agent.


No he won't.

I think you can take the stress cap off on that one.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:38 pm 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
kezza wrote:
By the way Betts is still to re-sign and may be considering his options as a free agent.


No he won't.

I think you can take the stress cap off on that one.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:43 pm 
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This list lacks the leadership and killer instinct of a genuine top 4/premiership side.

We have our share of talented players but talent only gets you so far.

We need to be daring, courageous and aggressive at the end of the year to get in some ruthlessness.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:47 pm 
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grrofunger wrote:

I'm not advocating sweeping changes to the list but why not shop some quality around?....Don't trade for the sake of trading but we should sure as hell be exploring all possibilities.


Not sure why the pundits on here are advocating keeping Michael Jamison. GWS need a key defender as much as they need another ruckman....maybe more after watching James Podsiadly murder Stephen Gilham today. Would they give up something good? Absolutely. Jamo is 27 next week. Had a reasonable start to the year, but he's inconsistent with form and injury. Going to have to get rid of some quality to get some quality. Tim Golds and Taylor Adams please.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:54 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
grrofunger wrote:

I'm not advocating sweeping changes to the list but why not shop some quality around?....Don't trade for the sake of trading but we should sure as hell be exploring all possibilities.


Not sure why the pundits on here are advocating keeping Michael Jamison. GWS need a key defender as much as they need another ruckman....maybe more after watching James Podsiadly murder Stephen Gilham today. Would they give up something good? Absolutely. Jamo is 27 next week. Had a reasonable start to the year, but he's inconsistent with form and injury. Going to have to get rid of some quality to get some quality. Tim Golds and Taylor Adams please.


exactly !!

if people think we can delist the guys running around for the bullants and then dramatically improve our list , they are dreaming !!

we need to balance our list and i think our team will look dramatically different next year

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:55 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
grrofunger wrote:

I'm not advocating sweeping changes to the list but why not shop some quality around?....Don't trade for the sake of trading but we should sure as hell be exploring all possibilities.


Not sure why the pundits on here are advocating keeping Michael Jamison. GWS need a key defender as much as they need another ruckman....maybe more after watching James Podsiadly murder Stephen Gilham today. Would they give up something good? Absolutely. Jamo is 27 next week. Had a reasonable start to the year, but he's inconsistent with form and injury. Going to have to get rid of some quality to get some quality. Tim Golds and Taylor Adams please.


And he's making you look bad. :lol:

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