Why apologise?

They're your thoughts. Either stand by them or adjust them.

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Very very sad.....Worst performance in a while....at least since Judd has been around...

This guy summed it up well...

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Just got back from Melbourne. I paid $700 to go and watch the game. I'm not sure I got my money's worth. At least my wife can say she's seen the MCG in full flight, which was the maain aim of the trip over.
I haven't read all the thread but the bit I did read said most of what I would have said.
I was disappointed at the skill levels and the game plan. We all know Essendon* are going to run hard at us down the corridor but we just don't seem to want to defend against it. Their entry to the F50 was fast and furious and they managed to keep it open as a result. Our plodding about at half-back and around the wings gave them time to set up a defence before the entries to our F50.
Our set kicks for goal were crap. We should have been 4-0 early on.
I am not even going to mention kicking out after a point. Oh shite. Too late.
We ran the ball through the centre TWICE all night. Gibbs both times. Two shots for goal resulted. One missed from 25 out straight in front from Hendo. The other was a goal. Did we learn anything from it? Nup. Too logical to try it more often. The fact it won us the 3rd quarter against Brisbane didn't teach us anything either.
Armfield and Yarran tried to carry the footy a couple of times. Two kids. Both got caught out but I applaud them for having a go. Yarran showed he is prepared to have a crack and I liked his game even though it came in cameos.
I was ropeable afrerwads but have calmed down a bit now.
We need pace in this team. We should have drafted Jetta. Our mids are one paced. I'd be looking for a way to get Garlett in the side. Judd will probably replace Lucas or maybe McLean. I'd drop Walker based on last week, although the choice to play him one out on someone 10 cm taller wasn't of his making.
And how Essendon* was allowed to control the football for two or three minutes with nobody manning up just astounds me. Zones are all very well but once upon a time, everybody had a man and sides just couldn't chip the footy around like at training.
I have to go or I'll work myself up again.

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was there something wrong with Setanta, watching him very early in Q1 ... he looked spent ?

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Audio from Ratten's post-match conference...

http://sportal.com.au/mediaplayer/audio ... assed-7798

He bloody well should be embarrassed too!

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Good Grief, who was that 1st game kid playing for the Scum!!! He tore us a new @-hole!!! Lucky we didnt draft him, might have made us predictable!

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The last two games I saw before Saturday night were Geelong v Hawthorn (in person), and St Kilda v Collingwood (telly).

And then I watched us on Saturday night. We are soooo far off those teams mentally it isn't funny. I don't care about skill, tactics or whatever.

Every one of those four teams had intensity and a willingness to work until they dropped. And then to see what we dished up, knowing the road ahead.... Something is seriously amiss. You can be a work in progress and still turn up to play every week. Hell Melbourne are showing more than us right now in working for each other.

Really disappointing on just about every level.

Well done Kane on a decent debut.

Great summary of my experience.

The team lacks intensity to work let alone to work for each other.
Intensity is between the ears.

What I will say from a positive outlook is that we have competed in every game and shown something at times which gives us some glimmer of the class we expect.

I know the list is good, but all this leadership brainwashing, followed by counselling and bla bla new age overdose, could probably be sorted out with a good ass kicking from the heart from someone....someone the players would listen too because he is intimidating when angry....Bruce Doull? I don't know.

The players need a kick in the pants...Mark Maclure? It should be Ratts.
Regardless who it is, a good scare would bring some intensity.
This @#$%&! GC17 bullshit is probably making some players a bit precious.

Kick 'em up the ARSE...AND i DON'T CARE IF kERNA HAS TO DO IT.

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2009 Draft camp results

5, 10, 20 metre times

Jetta 1.08, 1.79, 2.95 secs
Lucas 1.05, 1.74, 2.93 secs

Agility
Jetta 8.39 secs
Lucas 7.95. secs

Regards Cazzesman

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With or without the ball?

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Well Melksham went before Lucas and Colyer went before our 2nd pick. What did you want us to do?

Regards Cazzesman

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No ones listening till you make a mistake.

Just stating the facts Dr.

Regards Cazzesman

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Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.”

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Should of gone for Talia then!

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Jetta does move beautifully, and he backs himself. For me the highlight is his kicking.

Lucas looked like he belonged, looking forward to watching him this year - he'll play every game while he has the energy to.

The pity about last year's trade/draft period was that we agreed to the McLean trade before we decided to trade Fev. Gysberts, Jetta, Tapscott, Bastanic, Duncan were all available as mids I would think will have long careers (assuming the recruiters didn't rate the talls).

We thought we were topping up for a tilt in 2011 with McLean's recruitment (a risky, if defensible move). After the Fev debacle it probably doesn't make sense.

If you trade a high pick, you want to be very confident of team success, otherwise you're giving up a decent chunk of the long term future.

The pity about last years trade period is that we were amatuerish in coming out a week before trade period even began to declare our swap for Brock. Not sure why we had to have premature trade-u-lation!

Obviously, we still haven't read 'Trading for Dummies'

We should've kept our powder dry and waited for the dynamics of trade week to unfold.

Looked even sillier when we went back to the dees to see if they were interested in re-negotiating!

Boy oh boy...

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Was going to mention the early trade - you never know what's going to happen, be it Fevola losing it or other options becoming available or the market value of experienced players being lower than projected. Very risky.

As for going back to the Dees - laughable.

The whole episode makes me question the supposed wisdom and savvy of Swann and Icke. The Judd challenge after the final was a similarly boneheaded move.

Personally I am not as star-struck as many with Swann & Icke.

The Fevola issue had already transpired so I dont think that would've had much effect on the Brock trade. Fevola's big night was 2 full weeks before trade week started. The Brock announcement was made the week before trade week.

I am sure Sticks, Swanny & Co. had made up their collective minds on Fev well before this announcement.

My initial thoughts were that we were overpaying for Brock but that is merely a subjective argument. The fact that we came out with this announcement so early was inexcusable. When this finally dawned on the brains trust at Princes Park, they were begging the dees to reconsider whilst they laughed and shaked their heads at us.

I just keep seeing episodes of incompetence and mediocrity at our club which makes me think that the dark years have taken such a toll that we now (even collectively) accept half measures and perhaps suffer from a delusional sense of achievement and do things with a sense of hope rather than certainty.

Traits of success are no longer evident - and they were at their visible best Saturday night

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The fact we gave pick 20 along with 2 top 5's to WestCoast in the Juddy deal and then followed up giving Fevola & pick 27 (Callam Bartlett) to Brisbane made us a laughing stock within the AFL world.
Clearly in both trades we gave up too much .. pick3 & pick20 should have been enough in the Judd deal and Fev for Henderson / pick12 at most was not enough from Brisbane let alone a sweetner from us. Yes, yes I know we got a pick 40+ (Army).
Icke showed he liked to pay well during his Freo days and unfortunately nothing has changed at Carlton. This has concerned me with Icke.