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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:07 pm 
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Quality is pretty subjective when it comes to vehicle engineering. Cars shouldnt be judged to be of high quality just because of features or of a badge. Many customers only look at the asthetics of the vehicle and also "word of mouth " mechanical reliability as a guage of quality, when buying, but perhaps should look at other criteria such as safety, durability results and attributes. Check out www.howsafeisyourcar.com.au
The korean vehicles have come a long way, rate well in safety and crash (its expensive to design a vehicle to meet 5 star ratings plus many of their target markets dont have high safety standards) but unfortunately lack somewhat in the durability stakes when brought over here due to our extremely harsh road conditions. Thats pretty much why all taxis were falcons, they tend to hold together for longer periods. (ford stopped optioning the taxi pack). Overall the Hyundai,s are are a good value for money vehicle, and with each model are taking big steps in increasing their quality and value, very much like the Carlton Football Club.
They make a good match.


Hmmm...can't say I know, but I would've assumed taxi's being Falcons/Commodores was as a result of the government giving more assistance to locally manufactured cars, as some form of incentive? Government fleet vehicles have purchased to support local industry, but I guess that doesn't neccassarily speak for the private sector. I would also assume that part availability in the initial years would've been in Holden/Ford's favour as would resale value and the fact that at that stage you couldn't really get a V6/large Hyundai vehicle, thus making it impracticle for passengers and to convert to more economical fuels like gas. Nowadays, it's more likely an "industry standard..."

As far Australia is concerned many a prestige car manufacturer has succumbed to our extreme climate and road conditions in relation to paint, suspension etc...A few are notorious...

I wouldn't say I'd be delighted to own a Korean car as in all honesty I'd prefer to be driving something out of Europe. Yet I can certainly appreciate that the stigma attached with being "made in Korea" now represents great value as oppose to poor quality, and probably always did! I'm also indebted to companies like Hyundai for revolutionising the car industry and making all manufactures less complacent in areas like efficiency, which has now even hit the European market (look at the new VW floorplans and how they are manufactured). In average income vs. new car affordability, I dare say it's never been better...I have no gripes with Hyundai and God bless them for any money they pump into my club - even if I'd rather be driving a Lexus!

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Hmmm...can't say I know, but I would've assumed taxi's being Falcons/Commodores was as a result of the government giving more assistance to locally manufactured cars, as some form of incentive?



A good number of taxis these days are "Toyota Avalons" because no one would buy the flowers. :roll:


Hmm who is the major sponsor of the AFL.

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Which reminds me didnt the Brisbane Lions cop it up the arse back in 2004 when the AFL's major sponsor was Coca Cola and the Brisbane Lions appointed Cadbury-Schweppes as their major sponsor. The AFL had a major shit. :roll:

Coca Cola -v- Cadbiury-Schweppes

Hyundai - v - Toyota

Not a peep from the AFL this time. 8)

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camelboy wrote:
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i just checked for my car - new golf - not listed, no golfs listed since the 2001 model :?


5 star Euro NCAP and as impossible to steal as one can get these days ... unless of course some scumbag breaks into your house to get the keys.

;)


just had locks put on home windows, some mongrel did try and break in - got half way through the window - scared the life out of my daughter.

had the car two weeks - it has lots of power and hardly uses any juice - how do they do that :?


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AGRO wrote:
wasthesonofapreacherman wrote:
Hmmm...can't say I know, but I would've assumed taxi's being Falcons/Commodores was as a result of the government giving more assistance to locally manufactured cars, as some form of incentive?



A good number of taxis these days are "Toyota Avalons" because no one would buy the flower. :roll:


Hmm who is the major sponsor of the AFL.

:lol: :lol: :lol:



avalon sorrento - what kind of stupid name is that for a car?

no wonder nobody bought them.

sorry if you own one :oops:


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The best we can do is Hyundai as a JOINT sponsor.

The club is associating themselves as what is percieved a cheap and nasty korean brand in Australia.

Visy had to come on board because we could not land another sponsor, and they try fluff it up by selling it as this enviromental awareness campaign.

Look at he pies, Lexus, Emirates, Mcdonalds, Sony

Carlton, Hyundai, Optus, Visy all second rate corporates.

Pub deals fail, Major sponsorship falling through, yet to begin development and some people on this site have the nerve to bag other clubs.

again, this carlton arrogance will be our downfall. People will never learn

The Carlton Football Club is a tarnished brand.

Go buy a hyundai!!!!! geez


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How's your sponsorship hunt going OWTS? Are you down to 1 or 2 pie shops right now?

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Melvey wrote:
The best we can do is Hyundai as a JOINT sponsor.

The club is associating themselves as what is percieved a cheap and nasty korean brand in Australia.

Visy had to come on board because we could not land another sponsor, and they try fluff it up by selling it as this enviromental awareness campaign.

Look at he pies, Lexus, Emirates, Mcdonalds, Sony

Carlton, Hyundai, Optus, Visy all second rate corporates.

Pub deals fail, Major sponsorship falling through, yet to begin development and some people on this site have the nerve to bag other clubs.

again, this carlton arrogance will be our downfall. People will never learn

The Carlton Football Club is a tarnished brand.

Go buy a hyundai!!!!! geez


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Piss off.

Go back to your loser club where failure is embraced and achieving mediocrity is seen as a high point of your club's history.

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Oh When the Saints wrote:
Melvey wrote:
The best we can do is Hyundai as a JOINT sponsor.

The club is associating themselves as what is percieved a cheap and nasty korean brand in Australia.

Visy had to come on board because we could not land another sponsor, and they try fluff it up by selling it as this enviromental awareness campaign.

Look at he pies, Lexus, Emirates, Mcdonalds, Sony

Carlton, Hyundai, Optus, Visy all second rate corporates.

Pub deals fail, Major sponsorship falling through, yet to begin development and some people on this site have the nerve to bag other clubs.

again, this carlton arrogance will be our downfall. People will never learn

The Carlton Football Club is a tarnished brand.

Go buy a hyundai!!!!! geez


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Keep quoting yourself. :roll:

I applied for the advertisement for sponsorship of St. Kilda - I promised them 7 cents in the dollar. :wink:

They were interested. :roll:

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Oh When the Saints wrote:
Melvey wrote:
The best we can do is Hyundai as a JOINT sponsor.

The club is associating themselves as what is percieved a cheap and nasty korean brand in Australia.

Visy had to come on board because we could not land another sponsor, and they try fluff it up by selling it as this enviromental awareness campaign.

Look at he pies, Lexus, Emirates, Mcdonalds, Sony

Carlton, Hyundai, Optus, Visy all second rate corporates.

Pub deals fail, Major sponsorship falling through, yet to begin development and some people on this site have the nerve to bag other clubs.

again, this carlton arrogance will be our downfall. People will never learn

The Carlton Football Club is a tarnished brand.

Go buy a hyundai!!!!! geez


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time for you to give melvey's missus a break for a while. he might have to move the tv a bit higher again


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OWTS reckons the aints are going to announce a sponsorship soon that will rival our Hyundai one

Well come on, cough up mate. We've got a thread just itching for such news :)

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Donstuie wrote:
OWTS reckons the aints are going to announce a sponsorship soon that will rival our Hyundai one

Well come on, cough up mate. We've got a thread just itching for such news :)



I think the "Me Toos" are getting contagious during this election campaign.


"Oh Little Man" keep putting your hand up and maybe teacher may pick you out to go up to the blackboard. :roll:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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sideshow bob wrote:
camelboy wrote:
sideshow bob wrote:
i just checked for my car - new golf - not listed, no golfs listed since the 2001 model :?


5 star Euro NCAP and as impossible to steal as one can get these days ... unless of course some scumbag breaks into your house to get the keys.

;)


just had locks put on home windows, some mongrel did try and break in - got half way through the window - scared the life out of my daughter.

had the car two weeks - it has lots of power and hardly uses any juice - how do they do that :?


Which model do you have? 2.0 TDI???

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Not bagging the sponsor ship but bought a navy blue Hyundai in 96.

First day my six year old neice scratched the shit out of it riding her bike up to look at it.

Third day truck ,which never stopped, peeled the side of it whilst I was in my favoourite lunchbar in tulla getting the reuiqred chicken shnitzell sanga for luch.

Fourth day back from the panelbeater neices five year old sister ran into it with her bike on the driver side door wanting to be the first to see it back

Sold it two days later




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Great stuff...
welcome aboard Hyundai....

gee I love this...there was outrage in the States last year when I was there when Hyundai made it into the top ten most reliable cars and most American models didn't. There were actually bozzos who smashed dealerships. The irony is there was the same outrage when the Japanese were doing it 25 years earlier....whilst the yanks were "flying the flag" most were also buying japanese cars...same thing is happening with the Korean ones.

Hyundai kicked butt with the Excel....they will do the same with the i30 and i10

http://carsguide.news.com.au/story/0,20 ... 22,00.html

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Oh When the Saints wrote:
Melvey wrote:
The best we can do is Hyundai as a JOINT sponsor.

The club is associating themselves as what is percieved a cheap and nasty korean brand in Australia.

Visy had to come on board because we could not land another sponsor, and they try fluff it up by selling it as this enviromental awareness campaign.

Look at he pies, Lexus, Emirates, Mcdonalds, Sony

Carlton, Hyundai, Optus, Visy all second rate corporates.

Pub deals fail, Major sponsorship falling through, yet to begin development and some people on this site have the nerve to bag other clubs.

again, this carlton arrogance will be our downfall. People will never learn

The Carlton Football Club is a tarnished brand.

Go buy a hyundai!!!!! geez


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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Sucked in you silly little man. :lol: Good to see your super-successful club has still failed to sign a decent sponsor....... You must be getting a little worried? Albeit more about us than your sponsorship woes........ 8)

You're just too funny OWTS!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Mil Hanna wrote:
Oh When the Saints wrote:
Melvey wrote:
The best we can do is Hyundai as a JOINT sponsor.

The club is associating themselves as what is percieved a cheap and nasty korean brand in Australia.

Visy had to come on board because we could not land another sponsor, and they try fluff it up by selling it as this enviromental awareness campaign.

Look at he pies, Lexus, Emirates, Mcdonalds, Sony

Carlton, Hyundai, Optus, Visy all second rate corporates.

Pub deals fail, Major sponsorship falling through, yet to begin development and some people on this site have the nerve to bag other clubs.

again, this carlton arrogance will be our downfall. People will never learn

The Carlton Football Club is a tarnished brand.

Go buy a hyundai!!!!! geez


QFT.



:lol: :lol: :lol:

Sucked in you silly little man. :lol: Good to see your super-successful club has still failed to sign a decent sponsor....... You must be getting a little worried? Albeit more about us than your sponsorship woes........ 8)

You're just too funny OWTS!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


They reckon on Saintsational that the new bard has been there 2 months and they havent heard boo... and thats a good thing cos it means there are no leaks or something..... but they dont even know where their trainng base is.

Oh and someone has"were getting a more massive sponsor than Carlton even " post....i hear Burkie is getting that one... :wink:

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I LOVE Hyundai.................

i had an S-coupe for a company car some years ago........
thrashed the %$#@ out of it.............!

kept going.............!

i now have an excel to carry me and pooch...........
thrash the %$#@ out of it...............!

still going...........!

welcome aboard Hyundai..............!


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Oh When the Saints wrote:
Melvey wrote:
The best we can do is Hyundai as a JOINT sponsor.

The club is associating themselves as what is percieved a cheap and nasty korean brand in Australia.

Visy had to come on board because we could not land another sponsor, and they try fluff it up by selling it as this enviromental awareness campaign.

Look at he pies, Lexus, Emirates, Mcdonalds, Sony

Carlton, Hyundai, Optus, Visy all second rate corporates.

Pub deals fail, Major sponsorship falling through, yet to begin development and some people on this site have the nerve to bag other clubs.

again, this carlton arrogance will be our downfall. People will never learn

The Carlton Football Club is a tarnished brand.

Go buy a hyundai!!!!! geez


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tommi wrote:
I LOVE Hyundai.................

i had an S-coupe for a company car some years ago........
thrashed the %$#@ out of it.............!

kept going.............!

i now have an excel to carry me and pooch...........
thrash the %$#@ out of it...............!

still going...........!

welcome aboard Hyundai..............!


kindest regards tommi


How much did you pay for it, tommi? :wink: :wink:

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The s coupe's were the shittest thing ever built.

mate of mine had one - absolute travesty of a car.

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