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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:34 am 
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Endeavour was first rate.Turn overs and silly decision errors and shit shooting for goal cost us in the end,but I am glad we lost actually and hopefully more young kids get a run in the next 3 praccie games and they experiment with players more

My main criticism was taking Hartlett off the ground.I thought he did well and Blackwell needed more game time. Was Hartlett injured?

Went with my cats mate Russell who will bare his bum tomorrow at work after KK snagged his 9th straight after the siren.Ask any cats supporter and they will tell you that this event is never likely to happen again.


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I think Hartlett copped a corky dealing with Whitnall's hospital handpass in the third quarter.


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It was pretty encouraging to watch the blues last night...

Our biggest deficiancy was our defence.... Without Lance who was EASILY our best last night we would of lost by 10 goals or more...He was awsome.. I still think that he will end up in the forward line in the future, but that can't happen until the backline it set...

Setanta was better than you could expect at this time of his development...Best part about it is that is will give Asaike confidence he can absorb..

Saddington, Kennedy, and russel will be handy additions :P

Kennedy might even get blooded at CHB..

Waite was down and out and dissapointing...Nil impact...(Which is a posative cause that's unlike him).

Bannister would of made a difference for sure...But i did like watching the young guys get blooded..

End of the day we didn't field our best side, and really looked at being competative while blooding youngtsters....

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Firearm Fevs wrote:
Waite was down and out and dissapointing...Nil impact...(Which is a posative cause that's unlike him)


I didn't really expect anything from Waite or Fevola during the match myself, which made it good to see Fev kick a couple of goals and provide a bit of pressure in attack. They, along with Kouta, probably shouldn't have played.

Here's another positive, the tackling. It was hard and fierce and they really drove the opposition into the ground at every given opportunity which is something we haven't seen much of in the past. Love the gang tackling.


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TheBluesMuse wrote:
It seemed to me that there were more experimental things done and less emphasis on winning (afterall, look what winning last years did... absolute jack). It looks to me like it is a fresh start for us and a finding our feet kind of year. We have more input from the other coaches and Pagan has let go of his enforcer kind of tactics....so we have a really changing team at the moment.


Yep, that is what it looks like to me too BluesMuse, I am not worried at all, yet.

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Spot on the pressure was as good as i've seen it at Carlton for quite some time...

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Positives for mine...

- Setanta's efforts all night. Still has a long way to go, but I reckon he's going to make. Was a bit hesitant at first, but when he kicked that first goal he got a bit of bounce in his step and was away.

- Blackwell and Bentick. Absolutely stoked with these two. It really must give them both a buzz being out there for long periods of the game without worrying about how long they have to go before Pagan pulls them off. Great to see Blackwell play in the middle in his first game and go about it like he'd been playing in there for a few seasons.

- Adam Hartlett. Yeah he got 9 kicked on him by one of the worst forwards going around, however like with Blackwell and Bentick, it was great to see Pagan leave him out on the ground when he was clearly getting beaten. I think in 2-3 years, Hartlett will make a very good CHB.

- Marc Murphy. The man can play. Enough said. 8)

- Lappin. Glad he signed on. Played his heart out last night. Was extremely happy with his game.

- Fisher. Has gone up another notch in terms of ability. Was running around and collecting the ball like he was a midfielder. Still needs a bit of work on his kicking though.

- Nick Stevens. All class.

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Waite was very good around the packs early in the game, which further convinced me that he should be trialed as a rebounding CHB. He's agressive, athletic, reads the play extremly well, has Dustin Fletcher's reach and is great at his feet. The only thing he doesn't excell at (still goes ok) is goal kicking. Everyone seems reluctant to take him away from the forward line, but carlos showed last night that he can at least provide a contest at senior level and brad fisher continues to amaze me with his marking ability. I dont think that Hartlett has the football smarts to play KP defence and would be far better suited in the forward line where he has played his footy as a junior. Our defence continues to be the main problem and it's time to start experimenting because the current set up is killing us.


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As others have observed, it looks like the PFJ have recruited heavily and there is an undue amount of doom and gloom here. I will try to stick to the positives.

I thought our gameplan was good. We showed at times we were prepared to go direct and to a contest. If nothing else, this will be in stark contrast to most of the competition and is a style I prefer to the Hawthorn/Swans keepings-off plan. I think Setanta has done more than enough to show he has a game to compliment this style, very much the Earl Spalding role where he repeatedly presents, and if he doesn't mark it the ball crashes to the ground with two or three opposition defenders. Its been a long time since we have had someone do that. Even his kicking was good remembering the limited time he has had in the game.

At the other end, Lance again showed his value as a defensive general. I love the way that his footy smarts get him to a position quicker than those more agile. Proves again that, at least for the time being, footy is best played by footballers, if you want to watch athletes - go to the Commonwealth Games.

Then there was a group who, although perhaps not playing a full game, showed pleanty of positives. McGrath did some nice things early. Fisher is always just going to be super special for a bloke picked in the 70's (to think he would not be in Navy if we had got Goddard). Walker, when let off the leash, really reminded us what his pace and delivery can and will add once his apprenticeship is served, lets just hope he has the patience sadly lacking in some supporters to serve that time out. Deluca, although he dropped a couple, did enough to show he had earnt his spot. Simpson, although quiet early, really does add some special pace up the wing. I know its a dirty word around here at the moment, but Simmo reminds me of a young ENTHUSIASTIC Campo. Really looking forward to attacking forays from him this year and in seasons to come. Hartlett - really looked comfortable out there to me, not one to add to your DreamTeam for stats reasons, but looks like he can develop into a more than handy defender. The comparisons made of him to Dustin Fletcher at the time of his drafting are not without some substance.

Fev was handy for a bloke just back from rehab, for the sake of our season I would have preferred that he had more time off, and maybe he will be granted that now the glitz and glamour of the pre-season comp is done for us. Waite is in the same basket.

For some perspective, we had 1 less scoring shot, and were in frint during the final quarter against a side that is the pre-season comp favourites and expected by many to be capable of giving the real thing a shake this year. I hope that we now lose the distraction of the NAB Cup and concentrate on the development role of the practice matches and for proper injury recovery for those requiring it.


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As for Luke how great was it to see Blackwell's little sidestep out of trouble between two Geelong players towards the end of the match (can't remember the exact when it was)? It just absolutely stunk of class. He's not as small as some people were suggesting either, he's not big by any stretch of the imagination but he's not Plunkett small either. I hope he gets plenty of games this season with a good period of time on the ground.


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Setanta lost run after getting corked by Scarlett, and Simmo got a nice whack in the young guns.
Nick Stevens after not even playing last week in the intra-club, superb professional effort. Great stuff from Lapps (he's back mentally) and the strength in contest from Marc Murphy. Lovely
Cats were crap and always had our measure but, I was pleasantly surprised.
Princes Park next week, then Alice Springs according to Lappin :-D

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My 2 Cents -
Not half as bad as some seem to think. We had Geelong on the ropes in the 2nd and again in the 3rd but kicking 2 goals 11 behinds for that time, just missed our chance to put them away.

Positives -
Setanta - if he had slotted a few more of his shots we would be carrying on like he is the next big thing, solid game - goal kicking needs work, especially from the flanks.

Hartlett - did very well shutting down N Ablett. Was not so effective on KK, but who was? KK was on a night out.

Murphy - Showed a bit of class - turned a few over but did some nice things.

Lance - When we controlled the game in the 2nd and 3rd he was dominant on HB and launching attacks up the middle.

Bentick and Blackers - both did some good work whe nthey were on.

Also had a laugh to myself when Deluca took that first mark and his juggling act actually got him about 5 metres closer to goal. Reminded me of Braddles doing the same thing but braddles was doing it intentionally. :-D


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blu944 wrote:
reads the play extremly well


Disagree with this.....I think it will be the only thing that stops Waite from being a gun; has the size, athleticism but IMO does not read the play well enough to become a superstar.

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Effes wrote:
blu944 wrote:
reads the play extremly well


Disagree with this.....I think it will be the only thing that stops Waite from being a gun; has the size, athleticism but IMO does not read the play well enough to become a superstar.

That can be learnt, Kouta did it.


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Effes wrote:
blu944 wrote:
reads the play extremly well


Disagree with this.....I think it will be the only thing that stops Waite from being a gun; has the size, athleticism but IMO does not read the play well enough to become a superstar.


I think he's a very complete player, I think the foot fractures that keep interrupting his preseasons have prevented him from gaining a solid base of aerobic fitness which means his usual high intensity can drop


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I wasn't disappointed; I didn't expect to win.

They won with two dominant bookends....Scarlett saved the game for them and Kingsley with 9.2 won the game for them.

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phoenix johnson wrote:
- Adam Hartlett. Yeah he got 9 kicked on him by one of the worst forwards going around,


Wasn't Thornton playing on Kingsley ??

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I think they both had a crack him IIRC?

Or was it just T-Bird?

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They both had a crack....but it was his night.

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Not shattered at all

At stages of that game we had 2 guys in the centre playing their first senior game, a key fwd playing his third & a defender his first.

Pretty shit game by both sides & somehow we were actually in front in the last.

Waite & Fev both looked like they shouldn't have played IMO

Tackling was pretty good.

I wish Pagan would play Lance fwd...

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