I bet we never have the courage to go after Bailey Smith. Someone we actually need in the team for footballing abilities. Runs two ways, can play outside and inside. Kicks goals. X factor.

No way we go after him. This is my point.

We dont back out culture to turn players around. We dont back we have strong enough leaders to deal with extroverted guys.

We havent had strong leaders since Kernahan.

I dont care what anyone says, Cripps is not a strong leader. Good player but not a great leader.

Who do we have that looks players in the eyes when we are losing at half time? And we come out firing.

We have from time to time fought in the last quarter but more so the other team backed off.

Josh Weddle said it himself, the perception is we are weak in the final quarter.

I dont back us to come out firing after half time. As an example.

Our players like previous ones in Murphy, Gibbs etc, think there is a next time. There isnt in footy but they dont get it.

Not even the history and jumper and occassion made them fire up. That was so disappointing. I just saw players smile and laugh during the game. Well bravo all !!

I agree that Cripps isn't a natural leader. Trying to do everything yourself to lift the team when it's losing is not sustainable leadership. Leading by example should also mean doing the decoy runs, setting shepherds etc. But moreso it should be instructing people to do those things and exhorting them to get involved and improve.

I guess our problem with captaincy is that we automatically give it to the best player. Like Murph... best player at the time but never looked like a leader, and it probably detracted from his game.

Admittedly it's hard to say who would be a natural captain in our team. Weiters, perhaps. Newman? For those who go to the game, who is speaking out and providing direction?

Cripps is a leader in my book.

It’s our story that he is trying to carry the team in his shoulders. Rather I see him as doing everything he can to make a difference. Still plays like he did as a junior - just fitter.

When I’ve heard him speak, he has a vision, an expectation of what is required to being that to life. When I’m at the game he isn’t shy marshalling the troops (through my eyes)

Yeah , best leader we have had since Sticks . I mean , how much can one man do .

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cripps, great player. tough. courageous. can and will take a game on. not exactly selfless, tho.

my question is; does he do the team things, or the me things?

i'm with you here. all of it. there's 25 years of test sample which backs you up too. two decades and counting of monumental ineptitude.

this season has been the cherry on top.

i think we need to make changes to our coaching panel, Hansen has been there 9 yrs as for Hamill what has he achieved in football .

Could not agree more

Cripps gets a free ride because he wants to will the side over the line...but he doesn't appear to be building the capacity of others to step up, or take on a more selfless, "less sexy" role for the greater good of the team

Cotchin realised it was more important to improve 17 other players than do it all himself

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Me things?

Contested possessions….are the hallmark of team things

me things = demanded cheap handballs when there's better options up the field. padding his stats but at the cost of the team? seen it a hundred times this season. asking for pittonet to play when we're 9-1 with 1 ruck, so he can get first use of the ball (if this is true, doc and voss said as much). we've never recovered since then. season on life support etc

Yep a leader doesnt try and do it all himself. A leader elevates those around them and trusts them. And empowers them.

Cripps is an amazing player, but tries to do all himself . Hence the issues i have.

I love Cripps please dont get me wrong.

100%.

it's about wanting the team to win, and do whatever it requires. making people better and elevating those around you is a big aspect of leadership too, and that's the type of leadership that has longevity & builds culture.



the cats had this under selwood, maybe it's dropped off a little since he retired, but they still have that culture where they feel like they can bring anyone into their team, and be able to rehabilitate them into their team first mantra.

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That said, John Barker never let ‘family reasons’ keep him out of a job.

He was passed over for every job for the best part of a decade, but he took them all on his feet.

I thought he was hopeless, but I should’ve at least given him credit for that.

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is there a sleep emoji?

Born to lead.

Exactly what he did on Sunday.

Cripps Hewett combo was brilliant.
Over the years, the troops have been hanging onto Crippas coat tails more times than not.
What is Crippa suppose to do? Wait for the troops to arrive with their opponents stuck to their side?

I expect Cripps to be a Premiership Captain.

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Yes BB, with you

I’m fully invested in leadership and see admirable leadership qualities in crippa. Sure he continues to be on a learning curve and demonstrates a great appetite to grow. It’s not a surprise that his standards continue to rise, as do many of the players around him.

That's it Bondi . He can't do it all . He can only spoon feed them blokes so much . At some point they need to grow up and not wait to be led . That bad patch is due too emotional immaturity as much as injuries . Too brittle and fragile . Above the shoulders for mine .

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Time for a clean out
Surely the club can see that.

We get found out when the stakes go up.

Not sure whether Voss is a draw card or a turn off for up and coming assistants... But we need to find a way to keep lifting the quality.

Cooky needs to get in there and help

Kade Simpson is working under a senior coach who has half a clue.

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