Joint captains between Whits and Stevo i prob accept though still think Whits indescretion with Scotto is the worst possible timing to muck up.

Rotating captaincy ..... only one team has done that and thats the Saints and well do you think that has really worked .....

I think you will find post grant Thomas ... R Lyon will give the captaincy to Hayes or Riewalt for a extended period of time.

Maybe look at the hawks and use Stevo in a similar role .. we know that vandenberg is only a fill in until Hodge gets the permanent gig much like Stevo for Murph.

I also think that Stevo is someone who will improve in his on field leadership with the Captaincy and actually get more responability..

Anyway bottom line we both seem to agree is that Murph is the natural captaincy option in 1-2 years ... so if we think that then we both acknowledge that the next 1-2 years is only a temp position unless either lance or Stevo excels in the position..

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Thornton for Captain.

Arguments against:
He screams at players on the field:

Rebuttal:
This shows passion and a sheer desire to win. Thornton is not satisfied with simply floating across half back and taking marks when they are available. He wants to stop every attack, prevent every goal, and force as many potential goals into behinds or turnovers. He may not be as fast as his man, but he'll try push him wide if he can't match him for pace. He may not be as tall, but he'll try and think ahead to get in the right position. He may get frustrated, but I'd be worried if he didn't considering our poor midfield performances over the past few years and Thornton being our only real key defender.

Argument against:
He wanted out at the end of the year:

Rebuttal:
He asked for a three year contract, he deserved a three year contract, and yet was not offered one despite the fact Carlton were at the time supposed to be pushing a youth policy. I think it is safe to assume his manager also played a part, and he was obviously tempted by the big bucks Hawthorn was throwing at him. He is worth every cent of what we are paying him in my opinion.

Thornton for Captain!

Sets a poor example with his tantrums!

Who the @#$%&! are you?

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COOOOOLLLLLIIIINGWOOOOOOOD

Make Murphy captain. I thought Simmo a few months ago but murphy will be captain one day. So give it too him, lets look to the future. Whitnall isnt captain material and this proves it. Has a bung knee cant fully train yet is in Ballarat, plastered. Yeah captaincy material.

First time I have been able to get online since the Friday.

Red could not possibly be captain after 'leading' four young players out on the town.

Regardless of whether he was involved or not, he should not have been out.

Perhaps he and the rest should duck down the Carlton FC Shop and buy those cute little Carlton watches, so that they can ALL know what time it is.

Scotland has some serious alcohol/anger issues. Not to mention issues with women, who he keeps hitting. A real man in my book.

Walker for Captain!

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

yep make walker captain

Hey..........

what is there.........about 630 footballers in the AFL...........?

why oh WHYYYY.......do we keep hearing about the same
%$#@ING 10-15 players...........?















OVER and %$#@ING OVER...................!






PULL YA %$#@ING HEADS IN FOR %$#@S SAKE..................!


if my pooch Zahkarry knows when to sit for dinner........
why the HELL don't these guys know when to stay
out of trouble.........?

it's %$#@ING SIMPLE..................use ya BRAINS................!








oh....that's right.............................brains..............!


kindest regards tommi

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Love your posts Tommi - could not agree more.

Fancy Lance telling the media that none of the players were wearing watches, which is how they lost track of time.

No

flowering

originality

Walker for Captain!

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

VOTE 1 FOR WALKER!

Mmmmmmmmm! Walker is another option. But he's just starting to show some consistancy. I don't want a Captaincy to burden he's development.

But perhaps keep Kouta as Captain in his final year and have a youthfull group for Vice Captains?

Captain:- Kouta
Vice Captains:- Simpson, Walker, Murphy.

Another option is Fev, or are we still off Fev because of what happened last year?

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"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit"
- Aristotle

I would let Kouta run with it for another year.

As for future, Walker, Murphy, Gibbs & Simpson all display "leadership" qualities.

So Synbad can make a smartarse remark about Lance and dim sims or McDonalds - Has always been hilarious, and will continue to be .

Why do we believe that becoming captain is a negative to a young player rather than an incredible boost of confidence in their leadership qualities?

Had Lance only been out with Scotland, I would say this is a non issue for him in his captaincy ambitions BUT he had other young players with him, which showed an incredible lack of leadership.

I'm sure his wife is pleased that he was out so late while she was at home with the kids.

Walker for Captain!

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

Depends which way you're looking at it. I'm glad that Lance was out looking after some of our new kids. Situation may have been even worse if there wasn't a cool head to get everyone in a taxi and out of the trouble spot.

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

How can you let a non event like this ruin a great Carlton week?
You've all lost the plot.

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"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides

Hitting a woman, is not a non issue.

Being out til 5am is not a non issue.

Being so totally blind that the police could not interview them is not a non issue.

If our good news week has been wrecked, don't blame us, but point the finger where it belongs.

Walker for Captain!

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

Good point, maybe Whitnall stopped the situation from getting much worse.

Scotland should be warned by the club that if he acts up again, he is out!
PUBLICLY

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These are allegations at this stage. Lets show a little faith in our players.

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

The kids had already gone home before the incident occurred. It was just Lance and Scotland by that time.

I don't think you can pull any positives for Lance out of this.