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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 10:23 am 
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Job 1: give Lloyd a chance to state his case, then, respectfully, sakc him.

Job 2: get an appropriate expert to help grill and assess the performance of everyone on the recruitment and list management team. Figure out who should be kept on, then work behind the scenes to secure upgrades to replace all those who aren't up to scratch.

Job 3: agree with leadership team & board and get buyin for an agreed impartial approach to reviewing the coaching staff

Job 4: list review



Best placed for Job 2 and Job 4 is Wright, and some input from the new coach (they are looking for as I type).

Job 3 requires impartial information collection. Can be done online unanimously. Then a one to one interview by Cook, followed by another outside coaching guru: Simpson?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 10:27 am 
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Braithy has the fishing pole out. I get it Braithy........I hate the KGB Messiah and you are much the same with Vossy. :lol:
Suitable Ammo is just much easier to find on the Messiah. Something new every hour. :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 10:55 am 
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nah, you watch. wright doesn't rate voss, never has - and never considered him for the pies - and he's gone at season end. it makes me think wright and i have a fair bit in common.


bondi is cute how he's happy to be fed a diet of mainstream herald media and takes it to the bank as gospel. it's been the 90's since clubs, players and coaches gave the mainstream media any variation of the truth. it's all carefully manicured soundbites now that are created to reveal nothing.

like how our cap is stuffed, also ... but bondi won't hear of that bcos that's not what the herald is reporting.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:30 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
Bluey44 wrote:
Job 1: give Lloyd a chance to state his case, then, respectfully, sakc him.

Job 2: get an appropriate expert to help grill and assess the performance of everyone on the recruitment and list management team. Figure out who should be kept on, then work behind the scenes to secure upgrades to replace all those who aren't up to scratch.

Job 3: agree with leadership team & board and get buyin for an agreed impartial approach to reviewing the coaching staff

Job 4: list review



Best placed for Job 2 and Job 4 is Wright, and some input from the new coach (they are looking for as I type).

Job 3 requires impartial information collection. Can be done online unanimously. Then a one to one interview by Cook, followed by another outside coaching guru: Simpson?


Re: highlighted bit, that's exactly what I was going to reply when I read it, but then I saw a dog with a puffy tail and forgot all about it.

I want Wright to get his hands dirty. No more of this hiring people to hire people to arrange a committee to conduct a review of potential new candidates for a think tank. Just put the hours in, identify and excise the cancer!


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:32 am 
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nah, you watch. wright doesn't rate voss, never has - and never considered him for the pies - and he's gone at season end. it makes me think wright and i have a fair bit in common.


bondi is cute how he's happy to be fed a diet of mainstream herald media and takes it to the bank as gospel. it's been the 90's since clubs, players and coaches gave the mainstream media any variation of the truth. it's all carefully manicured soundbites now that are created to reveal nothing.

like how our cap is stuffed, also ... but bondi won't hear of that bcos that's not what the herald is reporting.



That's rubbish braithy. You know how I get my info.

You're taking the piss now. You can't prove Wrights has said anything derogatory about Voss. In fact, he's very different to you. He doesn't make up one liners and quote sources that don't even exist.

I post anything I find in the media for my fellow TCers to read. Its information I have access to, some don't. I do it as a service to my brethren, especially interstaters. Some appreciate it. Some don't. Piss off if you don't. Dispute it if its wrong. I do.

Your facts come straight from the media. I used the Herald Sun and all other media to use them on my spreadsheet to appease you. You can argue against the numbers, but you haven't. You struggle with numbers. Go have a look at the Team List and their pay packets. I've fattened it up. Dispute that, not me.

Tell me, where do you get your info of our bulging salary cap other than media? And why has the media stopped with all the crap about the Salary cap in the last week, and two weeks ago denied the numbers they presented 2 months ago. I've posted those quotes. Its empirical. Can't say the same about your wild hot headed guesswork, and make believe stories, you can't prove.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:32 am 
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I hope Grahram Wright reads all this and takes it on board :smoking: :thumbsup:

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Will the board and the people behind the scenes pulling the strings allow Wright to do what he wants to do
Wright did some amazing things at Collingwood
He got rid of Buckley got McCrae Leppitsch and Bolton
All 3 complement each other

People skills tactics development of kids
Only someone with great people skills can do that
Secondly re jigged the list to incorporate leg speed
He doesn’t agree in overpaying ruckman
Doesn’t believe in sentiment
But will he be allowed to to change things
Liking moving on Cripps and Voss
Time will tell but this club has a history of the power groups winning

I agree with what Lewis said on TV
Melbourne should have traded Petracca and Oliver last year
Their currency has plummeted
They have missed their chance
At least they won a flag


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:34 am 
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GreatEx wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Bluey44 wrote:
Job 1: give Lloyd a chance to state his case, then, respectfully, sakc him.

Job 2: get an appropriate expert to help grill and assess the performance of everyone on the recruitment and list management team. Figure out who should be kept on, then work behind the scenes to secure upgrades to replace all those who aren't up to scratch.

Job 3: agree with leadership team & board and get buyin for an agreed impartial approach to reviewing the coaching staff

Job 4: list review



Best placed for Job 2 and Job 4 is Wright, and some input from the new coach (they are looking for as I type).

Job 3 requires impartial information collection. Can be done online unanimously. Then a one to one interview by Cook, followed by another outside coaching guru: Simpson?


Re: highlighted bit, that's exactly what I was going to reply when I read it, but then I saw a dog with a puffy tail and forgot all about it.

I want Wright to get his hands dirty. No more of this hiring people to hire people to arrange a committee to conduct a review of potential new candidates for a think tank. Just put the hours in, identify and excise the cancer!


What posters fail to understand, isWright has started. He's not just watching. He's asking, he's in meetings all year, he's absorbing, he's not fixed on any one conclusion, but I'm sure he has his feelings. That was confirmed when I saw the Blue Abroad interview last night with the President, Rob Priestly.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:20 pm 
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This guy doesn’t stand a chance.

Setup to fail before he even starts.

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May not even make his start date.

Get out while you can.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 9:57 am 
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Just askin" . Why was Wright overlooked for the CEO gig at Hawks and Pies ? what were his perceived shortcomings ?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:01 am 
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its funny to me that a lot here talk of the messiah syndrome when talking about recruiting and players, but when it comes to off field positions, they are happy implying that one person is going to change everything. Stability both on and off the field is the one big requirement that all premiership teams seem to have in common. Blowing the place up will only set us back years, so I do not expect a lot of big changes.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:03 am 
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Mickstar wrote:
Just askin" . Why was Wright overlooked for the CEO gig at Hawks and Pies ? what were his perceived shortcomings ?


carntheblues wrote:
its funny to me that a lot here talk of the messiah syndrome when talking about recruiting and players, but when it comes to off field positions, they are happy implying that one person is going to change everything. Stability both on and off the field is the one big requirement that all premiership teams seem to have in common. Blowing the place up will only set us back years, so I do not expect a lot of big changes.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 12:55 pm 
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Changes must be implemented, incompetence at board and across administration, operational levels has been monumental.
After three decades of wondering in wilderness, its time or an very thorough review otherwise our club will implode current mode is unacceptable and unsustainable.
The top 4 teams are skillful, quick and play very exciting modern football, that draw crowds.
The club needs a CEO with exceptional ability, synchronized with the board to enabling whats required for the team to move away form the quagmire its in.
One can only keep the fingers crossed and prepare for another week of intense scrutiny from media and more supporter anguish. Hopefully Graham Wright is a competent the best operator.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 12:56 pm 
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grrofunger wrote:
This guy doesn’t stand a chance.

Setup to fail before he even starts.


So, he's a loser?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 1:15 pm 
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carntheblues wrote:
its funny to me that a lot here talk of the messiah syndrome when talking about recruiting and players, but when it comes to off field positions, they are happy implying that one person is going to change everything. Stability both on and off the field is the one big requirement that all premiership teams seem to have in common. Blowing the place up will only set us back years, so I do not expect a lot of big changes.


Certainly no big changes off field. Wright takes over from Cook. Preistley takes over from Sayers. That's done.

On field is where things have gone wrong.

Not sure of any Messiah targets for the playing group at this stage.
Take it to the bank, TDK is gone, and that's a huge change in direction for us. WE planned to sign him before Saints offer.
I don't think ruck will be left to O'Keefe and Pittonet next year. No Messiah, but a bonafide experienced ruck is on the cards.

We will drop a few kids from the list and fill their vacant spots with more experience. Not necessarily any Messiah amongst the inclusions.
Its good for the developing kids in the AFL and VFL teams to have better players around them.

Here's a tip. You wont be seeing Vossy, Hansen and Russell next year.
I doubt Clarke will be there next year. That's a huge coaching change. Is Longmire a Messiah, or an improvement in coach?
Not saying he is coming to Carlton next year, but he has been spoken to by Wright.

The list will have a different age profile next year, and the year after will be where Wright would like it to be.
We are not far off.

We need to weed out mentally weak players who can't build themselves up for war and unsociable footy. The style that wins you games and Flags.
Then there's the injury prone players we need to move on, or demote them as depth. The latter is my preference.

Like other years, I can see at least 8-10 changes to the list. There's no Messiahs amongst the FA's.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 1:44 pm 
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Bondi, assuming your predictions are tied to your interactions with people at or around the club, do you anticipate changes in the leadership group? I know, I'm like a dog with a bone on this topic! I have doubts about all of them, but at the very least Curnow cannot continue as leader of the forwards group. Messiah or not, we need serious people leading on-field.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 2:04 pm 
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Bondiblue, I like your infectious optimism. 'We are not far off'.
I hope you are right.
I have supporter burn-out. :banghead:
Years of false dawns have made me emotionally fatigued.
This year I have been hoping for a 'Camp Curnow' type resurgence, ala 2023.
I dread that after four years with GW at the healm we will be in the same predicament. I hope that I am wrong and you are right and that 'we are not far off'
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 4:10 pm 
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GreatEx wrote:
Bondi, assuming your predictions are tied to your interactions with people at or around the club, do you anticipate changes in the leadership group? I know, I'm like a dog with a bone on this topic! I have doubts about all of them, but at the very least Curnow cannot continue as leader of the forwards group. Messiah or not, we need serious people leading on-field.


Nah, its game day.

I had my thirst beer at midday.

Amazing how the mind works therafter.

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