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Bluey44
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 4:07 pm 
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If we are going to do a deal with Swans for Charlie - why is no one discussing the obvious - Grundy - He is better than TDK


Grundy?? yes, but only as steak knife... And don't bet on him to stick around.
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Juanita Jones
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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They can all GAGF. I’m sick of these players who want want want want and then have a dummy spit when times get tough. Cry me a @#$%&! river.
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DocSherrin III
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GreatEx wrote:
I asked for Zak Butters but Doc got me Jack Buttons (2021 national draft pick #24, AFL games: 0)


Maybe dig back through the archives and you might see what I'd do to ensure we got Butters in his draft year. I'd also have culled Docherty years ago. Cripps I'd have got rid of after his first Brownlow. I'll stand by that. Would definitely do it now. Meanwhile, you're holding onto two key forwards who don't worry the top 10 teams in the league. Sometimes the writing is on the wall.

Wake up. We're a bottom 8 club. Replenish the list.
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MPH78
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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I think it is fair and reasonable for us paid members to pose the question ‘what the @#$%&! has gone on at the club in the past 12 months?’.

Can mitigate all you like but from the outside looking in and taking in to account our onfield performance, it is so far from an elite professional environment as can be.

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Sydney Blue
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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MPH78 wrote:
I think it is fair and reasonable for us paid members to pose the question ‘what the @#$%&! has gone on at the club in the past 12 months?’.

Can mitigate all you like but from the outside looking in and taking in to account our onfield performance, it is so far from an elite professional environment as can be.


It is obvious they went into list rebuild last year and the players have got he shits

They left the senior players on the list in the lurch by not topping up to have a crack

They dont want to go through another rebuild and bottom out - so they are bailing out

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Effes
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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Surprise surprise

EXCLUSIVE

Carlton defender Jack Silvagni set to meet with St Kilda

The Pies and Dogs were thought of as the two main contenders after Jack Silvagni told the Blues he was gone. But another Victorian club is launching an 11th-hour bid.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... 1c4b37b4f4

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kezza
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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Drewgirl wrote:
Geez the mosquitos hanging around Prinnie park. Wonder if they do the same at other clubs.

They are relentless. We are a very popular club arent we.

I don't ever remember a time when the media was so obsessed with a club.
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kezza
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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If the Swans offer us pick #2 and a future 1st for Charlie then we should take it IMO.


Would definitely consider that....the good thing is a club must overpay if they want Curnow or McKay.

How are the Swans getting pick 2? Warner?

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/blu ... 5mqjy.html

Blues star Curnow’s trade request denied
By Jake Niall and Sam McClure
Updated August 28, 2025 — 2.52pmfirst published at 11.22am

Carlton superstar Charlie Curnow’s request for a trade away from the Blues has been flatly rejected by the club.

The star forward told the Blues of his wish to move to another club at his exit interview on Thursday. But he was told that he would not be traded, according to three competition sources with knowledge of the situation.

Either all of the media are lying or Charlie has been.
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daggs001
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Trade Curnow and ask for future 1st or two.
We are going to need them to get Cody after the AFL
change the rules to @#$%&! us over.
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Pat's Fitztrick
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 5:14 pm 
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GWS wrote:
GreatEx wrote:
GWS wrote:
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Swapping a 30yo A grade forward for a 23yo A grade midfielder is a no brainer.
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Ah, the great TC tradition of rounding ages up or down depending on the point one is trying to make.

H is 27 turning 28 in December
CC is 28 turning 29 in February
EG is 23 turning 24 in July

No 7-year differences to be found here, and we haven't even discussed how KPFs tend to peak later.


So at the start of the season Charlie is 29 and 1 month and Gulden is 23 and 8 months.

The point being do you want five years and maybe 100 games from player A or 10 years and maybe 200 games from player B?

I’d still take Gulden in a heartbeat.


And move Frankie Evans to centre half-forward. :razz:

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Crusader
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 5:17 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Surprise surprise

EXCLUSIVE

Carlton defender Jack Silvagni set to meet with St Kilda

The Pies and Dogs were thought of as the two main contenders after Jack Silvagni told the Blues he was gone. But another Victorian club is launching an 11th-hour bid.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... 1c4b37b4f4

Would fans still boo him if it turns out he got his old man sacked again?

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Blueboy74
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 5:21 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Surprise surprise

EXCLUSIVE

Carlton defender Jack Silvagni set to meet with St Kilda

The Pies and Dogs were thought of as the two main contenders after Jack Silvagni told the Blues he was gone. But another Victorian club is launching an 11th-hour bid.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... 1c4b37b4f4


“The Herald Sun understands veteran recruiter Graeme Allen and St Kilda coach Ross Lyon have driven the move for Jack Silvagni in a bid to help keep his dad out of it”.

:garthp:

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kezza
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 5:22 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Surprise surprise

EXCLUSIVE

Carlton defender Jack Silvagni set to meet with St Kilda

The Pies and Dogs were thought of as the two main contenders after Jack Silvagni told the Blues he was gone. But another Victorian club is launching an 11th-hour bid.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... 1c4b37b4f4

5 year deal worth $800,000 a year is what is being reported.
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bluebo baggers
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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kezza wrote:
Effes wrote:
Surprise surprise

EXCLUSIVE

Carlton defender Jack Silvagni set to meet with St Kilda

The Pies and Dogs were thought of as the two main contenders after Jack Silvagni told the Blues he was gone. But another Victorian club is launching an 11th-hour bid.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... 1c4b37b4f4

5 year deal worth $800,000 a year is what is being reported.


Hello Band 1 compensation :thumbsup:

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Crusader
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bluebo baggers wrote:
kezza wrote:
Effes wrote:
Surprise surprise

EXCLUSIVE

Carlton defender Jack Silvagni set to meet with St Kilda

The Pies and Dogs were thought of as the two main contenders after Jack Silvagni told the Blues he was gone. But another Victorian club is launching an 11th-hour bid.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... 1c4b37b4f4

5 year deal worth $800,000 a year is what is being reported.


Hello Band 1 compensation :thumbsup:

About $100k short.

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Cazzesman
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 5:40 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Humpers wrote:
If the Swans offer us pick #2 and a future 1st for Charlie then we should take it IMO.


Would definitely consider that....the good thing is a club must overpay if they want Curnow or McKay.

How are the Swans getting pick 2? Warner?

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/blu ... 5mqjy.html

Blues star Curnow’s trade request denied
By Jake Niall and Sam McClure
Updated August 28, 2025 — 2.52pmfirst published at 11.22am

Carlton superstar Charlie Curnow’s request for a trade away from the Blues has been flatly rejected by the club.

The star forward told the Blues of his wish to move to another club at his exit interview on Thursday. But he was told that he would not be traded, according to three competition sources with knowledge of the situation.


A month ago ........ out of the mouths of babes....

"I obviously want to be here," Curnow told reporters after Carlton's 24-point loss to Hawthorn on Thursday night. "I don't really want to make this about me right now, but I'm playing at Carlton next year. There you go. Done."

WTF is going on here. :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

If Charlie has told the club that he wishes to move to another club, and I believe it because there has been no denial from either Club or Curnow, then I am flabbergasted. :hitcomputer: :hitcomputer:

If he has changed his mind in a month and gone all flakey, then happy to take serious offers.

Let's see what the other 17 clubs think he is worth. Pick #1 from Eagles plus their first rounder next year (Prob #1)......Sign me up. Plenty of surf in WA Charlie. Will Duursma come on down.

Strange days.

Regards Cazzesman

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Crusader
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I don’t want to trade with these cauliflower, but if stupid money like that is what squeezes out Windhager…

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Cazzesman wrote:
Effes wrote:
Humpers wrote:
If the Swans offer us pick #2 and a future 1st for Charlie then we should take it IMO.


Would definitely consider that....the good thing is a club must overpay if they want Curnow or McKay.

How are the Swans getting pick 2? Warner?

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/blu ... 5mqjy.html

Blues star Curnow’s trade request denied
By Jake Niall and Sam McClure
Updated August 28, 2025 — 2.52pmfirst published at 11.22am

Carlton superstar Charlie Curnow’s request for a trade away from the Blues has been flatly rejected by the club.

The star forward told the Blues of his wish to move to another club at his exit interview on Thursday. But he was told that he would not be traded, according to three competition sources with knowledge of the situation.


A month ago ........ out of the mouths of babes....

"I obviously want to be here," Curnow told reporters after Carlton's 24-point loss to Hawthorn on Thursday night. "I don't really want to make this about me right now, but I'm playing at Carlton next year. There you go. Done."

WTF is going on here. :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

If Charlie has told the club that he wishes to move to another club, and I believe it because there has been no denial from either Club or Curnow, then I am flabbergasted. :hitcomputer: :hitcomputer:

If he has changed his mind in a month and gone all flakey, then happy to take serious offers.

Let's see what the other 17 clubs think he is worth. Pick #1 from Eagles plus their first rounder next year (Prob #1)......Sign me up. Plenty of surf in WA Charlie. Will Duursma come on down.

Strange days.

Regards Cazzesman

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Players, coaches, media.

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Effes
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Carlton interest in Petruccelle per Jay Clark

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Cazzesman wrote:
Will Duursma come on down.


Duursma's don't age well. Dominate at underage level, but are just glorified Morton's.
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