Fair enough. I read it as Betts / Deluca...no worries. I dont think Betts was lost - I think Betts needs personnel to weave between to be useful. I think the game plan of most of 2006 doesn't suit him.



This thread is actually excerpts from a season review article coming up on carltonfc.com.au The loss of other players from the scoring was more the point - we all know fev has excelled but other than 'injuries to fish and waite' I dont think we've analysed where the hell the rest of our forward line went....

The maths bit - Fev +35. Waite -18. Fish - 7 or so. Fev more than accounted for the drop in those 2. My contention is its much much more than those injuries. It was a decline in midfield goals, decline in the entire forward line working together. Kennedy had 9 games but probably 250-300 minutes so I left him out of the equation.

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Good point. The kid wasn't out on the park much really. Proved one thing to me this year, that he is Bronesque with his body use. His huge mark against Geelong's Hartlett was all power and timing...pity about the kick that followed; imagine if he had've nailed those 10 misses in front. If he was on the field for another 200 minutes he probably would have had 20 more shots, and not end up injured in the Ants.

Decline in the midfield was due to too much energy sapped in heavy contesting for clearances, heavy flooding and too much space infront of them to flow forward. They were that F&*!!!!! up becuase of a lack of rotation, that their kicking penetration and accuracy was being stretched. Unreasonable strategy by the coach there.

Pagan seems too use the bench tactically (hopefully past tense) rather than for the upkeep of his stable, as the successful young coaches do.; and he owns horses!!

We can't use the excuse that we only had Kouta, Campo and Hulme, before Stevens came, and that Campo got such a working, our midfield was decimated, because we had noone to rotate with.

We've got 10 players around 20 that will play out 4 quarters in 2007 after the next preseason if the coach keeps them fresh (not cold).

I think our skill will also improve with this group if rotations are used effectively, which means our good efforts in winning clearances isn't wasted with untidy disposal. When that happens our midfield should contribute an extra 30% each, and we should have a few goals out of them in 2007.

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Season - Goals Scored - Behinds Scored - Points Scored
2005 - 400 - 270 - 2670
2006 - 354 - 291 - 2415

255 points less; 46 less goals, 21 more behinds...25 less scoring shots so basically 1 less per game. Again, question a) the impact of the flood and b) the personnel we had to utilise to effect the strategy?

Also c) consider whether the flooding tactics pulled our forwards away from the forward line where they could be damaging?

Does anyone have an update for I50 counts 2006 to 2005?

http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/team_home?tid=103

Those are the 2006 stats for the team Mols.

Those who have an account with pro-stats (or access to one) would be able to pluck up the 2005 ones pretty easily.

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Year Total Average Rank

2005 1091 49.6 #9
2006 1054 47.9 #16

Thanks BW. Interesting that our entries declined marginally yet we full substantially in comparison. This could be seen to support a view that our forward line was sucked out to the midfield which really damaged our ability to score. It could also be used to justify the opposite - we still got it in there, despite the flooding, but failed to convert the scores by overcoming someone else's flood. Both ring true.

Furthermore though, did the comp overall increase entries into the F50 ie is there a game plan / strategy give-away to this such that Coaches were happier to concede F50 as long as you had your defence + 2 spares to repel the attack (Question being is I50's up for the comp as a whole?)

My top ten moments would have to be:

(in no particular order)

1. Murphy's running goal against the Kangaroos
2. The first half against West Coast
3. Simmo's goal and the third quarter in the first match against the swans
4. Walker's almost mark of the year first time against the pies
5. Eddie's goal of the year second time around
6. Setanta vs. Hall
7. Fev's chase on Byron, rd. 1
8. Fev's long range kicking, especially in the first few rounds
9. Eddie and the end of the Essendon* Draw, giving it to Campo in the stands
10. Everytime a young player got a little piece more of the ball, and their ownership of being an AFL footballer was released,

http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/tea ... s=TA&sr=13

http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/tea ... s=TA&sr=13

Average was up from 50 to 50.6. There was quite an increase in the bottom teams from 46 to 47.9, while the top teams didn't increase much.

I thought one of the benefits of this year was that Murphy Betts Bentick and Blackwell spent a lot of time on the ball. Murphy and Betts are both potential goal scoring midfielders. The faster kids in the midfield provided more opportunities for Fev. Down back Walker Thornton Scotland Carlos Cory and Whits seemed to function well with 1AW taking on some of the AFL big name stars and beating them. Carlos looked lost at times during the season but with more games under his belt towards the end opf the year he made big strides. Simmo in his 4th year really looked comfortable and started to regularly deliver and his pace and skill certainly made us lok a lot faster side. Kennedy Russell and Jackson got their first taste and will be the better for it next season.

The game time this year and a solid preseason (injected with some new Assistant coaches) will see a greater input next year from the younger bodies. They just have to be given a chance and not dragged at the first mistake

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This thread is now an article on carltonfc.com.au:

http://carltonfc.com.au/default.asp?pg= ... eid=303500

well isnt that convenient.

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In truth dane the article was largely completed before the thread....

Part 2:

http://carltonfc.com.au/default.asp?pg= ... eid=303681

Thanks to Monty Burns (the TC poster) for his fine work in relation to 2002 - 2006 performances which was utilised (with permission) for the article,

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Thanks Molsey.

It is stated that
What was the break-up of this, i.e. did we win more 1st qtrs than 4th qtrs.

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Finalsiren has some good data

http://www.finalsiren.com/Fixture.asp?S ... &TeamID=14

Down the bottom has 2006 qtr stats

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Interesting that we had the same number of winning and drawing quarters (when added together) as '04. It certaintly backs up that there was improvement in '06, especially when considering the average losing margin was the best in 5 years.

Hopefully with another preseason under the belts of some of the kids there should be more improvement to come, with further improvement as this years draftees get push for selection in '08. We might finally get some depth in the side and start to play some good footy.

Roll on '07.