You can't drink a half-full glass of water if it is rancid.

Thats bullshit GWS..

Just because you think you know all, he is entitled to an opinion like anyone else.. Doesnt matter if he hasnt got the "post count" up like yourself...

Garbage!

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If you read my post you might notice that I wasn't actually disagreeing with what was posted.

Nevermind - glad you've found yourself a new friend No. 1 - it's always good to have at least one.

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No agendas, nothing personal, I am a member and I absolutely love the club, Im just very dissapointed with the clubs recent performance and I think that something needs to change. With our list we cant afford to lose either Thornton or Russel for nothing, and Id hate to waste our PSD. I think we should have at least signed or traded one of them. I dont see any other club in the competition with two very disgruntled uncontracted players. Someone at the club needs to take responsibility.

On the positive side I am very much looking forward to the draft and love reading many of the posts on this site, especially from guys like Caz and Mojo who appear to be very knowledgable.

Its interesting to note though that the positives (ie Murphy, Bower, Kennedy and the early picks we get in this draft) are really a result of our poor performance.

Whats that supposed to mean?.. It seemed what you write was a personal attack and it didnt seem necessary to me.. And i have no problem with you, just that like some others on here, you seem to think you're right and others are wrong if they disagree with you..

Everyone is entitled to an opinion and shouldnt have to 'earn their sripes' before being able to post on certain topics..

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Corinthians 9:6- 8

God, how I wish he was wrong.

But there's nothing there to disagree with.

Nothing at all.

When people arrive on a board and start off with a new thread about all the things that are discussed ad nauseum it often suggests there's someone with an agenda behind it.

If you read it you'll also see this at the end of the sentence.

Did it need a new thread on one of the busier posting days of the year? Maybe not.

Based on JAYDEE's follow up post I reckon he/she might be able to manage without your obvious compulsion to defend him/her.

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

Some of St. Kildas positives have a lot to do with their previous poor performances.

Collingwood picked up Didak with Pick 3.....was that after a good performance? How about Doggies and Cooney? Melbourne & Johnston, Sylvia & McLean?

In terms of your original post - some of those things can be seeing as positive e.g. not picking Gardiner and questioning the future of Pagan after finishing last....I wouldn't want it any other way.

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That's right. Gather the nector my little drones and make honey. Honey for your children.......Fools!!!

you could also say:

- came out with definitive statements about the support of Pagan
- put the front foot forward and attracted positive media articles, including the recent back page article with the HUN and Denis, Smorgon, Kerna and Malouf and the article about Stevens
- Resigned Fisher quickly
- Stood firm to crappy offers from Hawthorn and Port Adelaide re Thornton and Russell
- Made a firm statement that these players are required players
- Produced positive media statements in good time

I truely believe we are making some good progress off field as a club.

Ahhh can always count on you bluechucky

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Actually we are making negative progress on and off the field. Jaydee is exactly right except he forget one thing...The final blow in the series of blunders will be when we dont pick Gibbs with our first pick...I mean everyone knows hes the best and should be picked but that would be improving the club, but as JAYDEE has aptly pointed out the Club surely hasnt done anything so far to suggest this is a priority. Furthermore I was really looking forward to the draft and still am to some degree but i am gonna feel pain when I see who gets picked up at 23, 24 and 33 and wondered what could have been...actually what should have been...it wont be any different to the feelings i felt when Wells, Goddard etc. went elsewhere...we are in the pooh, its mainly our own fault and we have no-one of competence on the board or on the footy dept capeable of turing it around...I am a long time blues member and supporter and love the club and am the first every year to say we will make the 8..i've always been optimistic, but reality is reality..we are a shambles right now and Gibbs if we get him isnt going to make much difference particularly when we lose two young stars for Jack because Pighead wants to prove how tough we are.

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...Everyday.

I smell a St Kilda troll. The name JayDee is a little too close to the JD from BF, and this smells like a setup. He posted similar thoughts this week on BF.

Could be wrong, but I have my doubts.

bit of a worry when a st.kilda troll comes on here, calls us shit, and we agree with him

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Haven't got a problem with the guy unless he is a troll.


But we are sometimes a bit too precious with new posters - or like some other places where unless you have 7000+ posts your opinions are treated with contempt.

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I certainly agree with the last one. They have been getting some good postive statements up in quick time on the web site.

Re. the original post, I would dispute that we have the worst list in the league. We may have finsihed last, but I reckon we've got the Bombers covered.

Jaydee's post is factual but how can each limb be seen to be negative? We all know we came last and that's bad enough but now we have to extract the benefit for it.

I'm glad we said no to Gardiner - really happy about it. That doesn't preclude Pagan from going to see him or any of the other players taking part in the game.

Now it looks likely that both young players will be retained and thats a good thing. No one was willing to pay over the odds to why would you want them gone? Look at the Blues and we have what - 15 or 16 core players now who have pedigree or are pretty good. Its those remaining players we need to fill and fill quickly. This has been my main criticism of the Club - we didnt cut hard enough in 2005 and 2006 seems like a write-off outside of 5-6 great stories (Setanta, Murphy, Kennedy, Blackers, Simmo, Walker). But we have to be setting ourselves up for the next finals tilt and keeping 2 good AFL quality players sub 22 whoa re still learning the caper is good for this. Trade for a few second rounders and even if they're good we are still adding 2-3 years development. It seems to me as though we want to be playing finals 2008 or 2009 (and of course Pagan needs that to happen in 2008) and retaining such players is required for that purpose.

The youth policy and bringing through a good young team required us to keep these 2 in the absence of someone being particularly needy.

Forget the turmoil if you can and other than recruiting a big name from another Club we are where most would have wanted us to be. Maybe the $1m cap claim is designed to do this now but I'd have thought that's a little late.

Regardless the Club seems to think they have some good positive announcements coming up so I'm cautiously optimistic.

Best / Worst is so hard to agree on.

I think it is undoubted that the Bombers and the 'Roos have most of their 'Best 10' players aged 28 or over. Just about all of our Best 10 are 22 or younger, say excluding Fev, Stevens, Scotland (but all 27 or younger). That's the difference. We've got improvement ahead of us and they have decline.

Its JeffDunne - hyper-obsessed anti-Carlton poster from Big Footy !

Notice how he inlcudes the non-recruiting of Michael Gardiner as a negative. Now St. Kilda have recruited he'll be talking it up on BigFooty.

In the last week Carlton have sent a statement to the media, players, player managers and AFL Clubs, we are no longer push over.

In the last week Carlton have sent a statement that we are not a feeding farm for other clubs rejects.

In the last 24 hours we have kept a promising defender who has now been made an example of, and who needs to be doing the extra yards to win the respect back of supporters and teammates.

We have signed an assistant coach.

You missed the fact that Pagan was on holidays in Perth at that time and took time from his own holiday to LOOK into prospects, NOT commit or sign any players.

The club will be impoving its list through the "best draft in years".

Keep being negative if you want, but in a world of positivity things arre always on the improve.

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