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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:56 am 
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Richard Newton was also prepared to pay 100k out of his own pocket towards Healeys wages if Malouf would leave....

I was not convinced of Newton when he was appointed but he has done some great things.

Does this mean Lee as a guy who was annointed as the predient in waiting have to move his office next to Mitch?????

Look its all really weird..... but im sure Malouf and smorgon will have another bit in the paper tomorrow telling us how great things are...


What other great things has Newton done Synbad - please enlighten us seeing you seem to know things.

I couldn't see Healy leaving Southern Cross - he has a great job at the moment

Healy was already a walk up start.

Newton apart from offering tens of thousands out of his own pocket for change is also a workhorse (Like LEe) putting in alot of hours for the club and not trating his bord room spot as an opportunity to get into the presidents lunch for nothing...

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He turned 6PR around and then was requested to come back and run argually the second biggest station in Australia again.

He speaks well and is very well regarded with both the old school and new money.

He has hosted countless corporates through his work (therefore a strong network) and he is the first to admit that next to Rex he can come off a little quiet on radio.

The hours he would put in would be enormous but the challenge and reward would be great for all involved. Plus he is honest, diligent and not afraid to let others know what is going on and what is required.

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Can we make Graham McMahon president while we are at it??

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Hmmm .. Synbad, I was trying to make a comment about something else without actually putting it in print. I was hoping that people would understand. Yes his commentry was not flash ... but there were other things about him that were revealed when he was in that role. Lets just say ... I did not find him to be very switched on. I think he would be more of a disarster for Carlton. Completely agree with u Frank.

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Carlton God wrote:
Can we make Graham McMahon president while we are at it??


Whats your point?

When the club was last down and out, it approached a Melbourne player to captain and coach our club.

I personally don't give a flying flower what club these people support, provided they are the best person for the job then go after them.

Collo was a carlton man through and through, but when he went to the AFL, he didn't hold back on us because of his history.


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Collo was a carlton man through and through, but when he went to the AFL, he didn't hold back on us because of his history.


and they didn't hold back on him when he came back to Carlton. :x

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People very close to Shane (family wise) are Carlton through and through. He does follow Essendon* but Shane does love his football.

The contacts and passion Shane could bring to the club would be fantastic. I question those of you who are character assassinating him :?:

He is well respected amongst the media circles and will be able to draw positive media and valuable exposure to the Carlton brand, which will help reel in the sponsorship dollars.

Shane has a successful history of getting the best people around him to build a high performing and successful team. 8)

He has two thumbs up from Ronnie!!! :-D

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Shane Healy... hmm, any relation to Ian!? :P

Souther Cross HQ is located about 5 minutes from my work... means sweet FA but just thought you all would like to know...!

*y'know, I can go in and ask the man himself whats going on?!*


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No relation to Ian the cricketer

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Is this yet another case of anyone who is not CEO would be a great CEO and anyone who is CEO is crap?

Frank D is the fairest and most positive of posters on the site, so if Frank bags Healy then I would be real worried about his capacities. We headhunted Malouf from MCC (I think) and of course he was going to be great. I aren't close enough to the club to make a good judgement tho it is worth noting that he is operating a club with few staff, miserable onfield performance, divided board, coaching panel under pressure and an $8mil debt. Going to have to be someone really really good to steer us out of this. If Malouf goes we need someone considerably better. Brian Cook, who we can't get or someone of that calibre.

If Frank is that vehemently opposed to Healy, I don't want him.


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This is the one and only time where I haven't agreed with Frank. I still don't know where that outburst came from, because, and as you said, Frank is THE most positive person on this board.

Still, I'd like some background to his views, as everything I have heard paints Healy in a VERY positive light.

I'd still love him to work with Carlton.


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Most of the better posters on this site would be better more intelligent and more sagacious than Shane Healy


What does sagacious mean? :lol: :lol:


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I would prefer the new President and board to go through the search for the best possible CEO in Australia to take over this position. If Healy is the best - so be it, if not we will get someone even better. I think you would have seen this happen if Lee was President - after all recruitment is his thing.


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Owes you money does he Frank :shock:

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Owes you money does he Frank :shock:


Might have something to do with being an avid fan of the "Tobin Brothers" and not loud and crazy Rex and Shane Healy on AW.

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I would prefer the new President and board to go through the search for the best possible CEO in Australia to take over this position. If Healy is the best - so be it, if not we will get someone even better. I think you would have seen this happen if Lee was President - after all recruitment is his thing.


Who's to say it wasn't Lee that approached him?


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Thanks for your kind words Gerry
I know a fair bit about Southern Cross for a variety of reasons but last time I LOOKED Shane Healy was not its CEO not CFO and probably in middle management but far from a key person in Southern Cross so not sure that he has the skills to be the CEO of our football club.As for being key to the success of Southern Cross if he resigned tomorrow there would be no change in the share price no change in its strategic direction and no impact on Southern Cross management .He may be a competent operator in middle management but not of the same calibre as someone like FOR EXAMPLE Fahour of NAB Penn/Owen at Axa or Slatter at Tabcorp. He is not of the calibre of other sports administrators such as Speed Sutherland ONeil McNamee and even Ben Buckley.In other words if we want a new CEO then go for people of that calibre not someone like Shane Healy .Getting guys of the calibre of those set out above would be a coup but I think we should set our sights much higher than Shane Healy.
In my view he is not even as good as present CEO s at other clubs including Cook Harris Robson to name a few .
Just because the sporting press know Shane Healy and are pushing his barrow doesnt mean he necessarily has the skills to take on objectively one of the most difficult jobs in Australian Football.

I find it rather ironic that posters can slag Michael Malouf unmercifully but the minute anyone questions the credentials of a would be successor then they are attacking the man.Perhaps my earlier post was not as clear as it should be and apologise to those who know Healy personally I try to not attack anyone personally but Healy in my estimation is not as capable as Michael Malouf and find it objectively.

Moreover there seems to be a penchant here to think that anyone that is not the incumbent would be able to be President or CEO of our football club.Im not part of the cheer squad I want the opposition to tell me why I should prefer them to the malouf/Smorgan administration .Im not wedded to these guys but like when Collo took Black Jack on in my view he needed to articulate what was his vision for the club other than simply he was anti- Black Jack.I Want the current opposition to articulate their vision /strategy rather than simply be anti- Smorgan and Malouf. If Newton and Greg Lee cant do this because they are part of the present board surely their supporters could do so.
Speedy any idea how the ordinary supporter gets to speak to Newton or Lee to understand their position ?
As for the word sagacious it means eating too many sausages at the nursing home 8)
I hope this clarifies my position.


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Well said frank.

Was not aware that Healy was middle management in an organisation such as Southern Cross. My only info was what you hear in the media (obviously they might be pumping up tyres).

Totally agree about the vision stuff. If the alternative ticket spent more time saying who they were and giving a plan rather than slagging the incumbents (and the CFC brand) they might have had a better show. Still think at least two or three board members will change at the next election.

In terms of Greg Lee. I have met more than one member of the board and Greg has been by far the best to talk to and more importantly actually understands modern issues wrt footy clubs.

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Very interesting Frank. Thanks for the additional info.


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I noticed that Greg Lee also employes Geoff Southby as a manager in his business - so he's Carlton through and through!

He's also got a background in advertising so maybe he can get our marketing into shape.

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