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I think the Richmond game we played like the Beatles. A few rolled over dead.

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Clearly you have 2 options:

(1) Stand for the Board at the next General Meeting

or

(2) Dont buy a membership ticket in 2006


There is a 3rd option you could consider and that is buy a "Blues Brothers" DVD and get yourself a sense of humour. :wink:

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the board was elected - and they clearly arent performing and seeing as i am the Prez i may jsut do nominate for the board :wink:

and im seriously considering not getting a membership next year. like i said, not for the bad performances on the field, i would never not get a membership becuase of that, im talking about the overall effort the club has made from the lack of social club facilities at MCG to the fact that every single item that was promised/put forward to all of us to help "sway" our opinions has not and appears not to come to fruition.

The only thing that club has got right is the sponshorship - and that all lies squarley in the laps of the players - winning 10 games and then the wizzer cup was exactly what the club needed to get the sponsors on board.

and sorry - dont have a sense a humour about carlton playing shit, carlton board doing shit and most of all i dont have a sense of humour about our club getting shafted out of every single bargaining chip that "enticed" us from leaving OO and after the move we dont get a single @#$%&! thing.

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I agree with the Prez. I feel more and more as if the very members that elected this board are now being treated as extras in the chase for ratings by which to secure yet further sponsors and further third party agendas. I am getting tired of having the club cry poor.
The honeymoon is over for this Board who depreciated the Legends Stand 7 times quicker than was necessary given the commitment to the ground by the AwFuL, which provided a) the 'book value' incentive to move and b) reduced the payout value to the new landlord.
If the mcguires get their 14 games at the G we really do have to question how hard our board pushed for our favoured option whilst we spend half the year at docklands in a queue to pay booking fees to be herded like sheep by abbraisive attendants to and from a live version of video hits with a bit of footy thrown in on the side. Fair dinkum - some of our junior supporters know jingles for salty snacks or the latest telco offering better than the club song.
Incredibly, a Foxtel subscription is looking cheaper and more convenient than membership, but that was probably the plan all along.


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pj_canus wrote:
Incredibly, a Foxtel subscription is looking cheaper and more convenient than membership, but that was probably the plan all along.


PFFTT!!!...hahahaha :lol: :lol: .....I was agreeing with your post up until this. HAHAHAHA!!!


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I prefer to look at the club in terms of the pleasure I've gained from it over the years. To jump off financially now would amount to a sooky la-la mentality. Stick fat people.


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the The only thing that club has got right is the sponshorship - and that all lies squarley in the laps of the players - winning 10 games and then the wizzer cup was exactly what the club needed to get the sponsors on board.



Prez - signing Dan Murphy as a sponsor (Dan Murphy's being part of the biggest retail organisation in Australia today ie. Woolworths) has very little to do with us winning 10 games last year.

It has more to do with the extra media exposure they will get by us playing our games at the MCG and Telstradome.

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budzy wrote:
pj_canus wrote:
Incredibly, a Foxtel subscription is looking cheaper and more convenient than membership, but that was probably the plan all along.


PFFTT!!!...hahahaha :lol: :lol: .....I was agreeing with your post up until this. HAHAHAHA!!!


I go with the old man and shout his membership each year so costs are:

$645 for 2005 Social Club memberships (Dads a senior)
$5 * 2 * half a dozen games where you book a seat = $60
Tram or parking = $5 * 17 = $85.

Total $790 before I have bought an overpriced beer or pie.

Foxtel = what fifty bucks a month? therefore $600, I move no further than my lounge and I gather I get Simpsons as well. This is my 26th year as a member and I have attended all but 3 melbourne games in the past 3.5 years, so I think I can justly avoid the fairweather tag.


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number 9 number 9 number 9....

who gives a shit...!!!

As long as we play our games elsewhere and not at Optus oval...

Look at the end of the day we couldnt stay there Scott... you know that i know that..so why bitch about it??

I bet that we will get funding for the development of the new training facilities so why even just moan and bitch when you dont even know whats planned????

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pj_canus wrote:
budzy wrote:
pj_canus wrote:
Incredibly, a Foxtel subscription is looking cheaper and more convenient than membership, but that was probably the plan all along.


PFFTT!!!...hahahaha :lol: :lol: .....I was agreeing with your post up until this. HAHAHAHA!!!


I go with the old man and shout his membership each year so costs are:

$645 for 2005 Social Club memberships (Dads a senior)
$5 * 2 * half a dozen games where you book a seat = $60
Tram or parking = $5 * 17 = $85.

Total $790 before I have bought an overpriced beer or pie.

Foxtel = what fifty bucks a month? therefore $600, I move no further than my lounge and I gather I get Simpsons as well. This is my 26th year as a member and I have attended all but 3 melbourne games in the past 3.5 years, so I think I can justly avoid the fairweather tag.


You are not a fairweather supporter...sorry if you took it that way.
Foxtel is one of the biggest con jobs going IMO. Repeats repeats repeats repeats repeats repeats ads ads ads ads ads ads repeats ads repeats ads repeats................................


There's enough "Simpsons" on Ch10 anyway I would've thought.
Don't give up your CFC membership for Foxtel.


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I repeat this issue is not about whether we should or shouldn't have moved from OO. That debate is over and done with.

If the CFC is sitting back and hoping for AFL funding then that only proves that they are not fit to run the club. We are entitled to some accountability from our board on how the details of the move (as presented to members last year) are proceeding.

The core issue is whether all the i's were dotted and t's crossed by the CFC board BEFORE agreeing to the move. I would have thought that if the club was going to put something out to its members on the move and in it make such a BIG issue of the redevelopment of OO and the SUPPORT that the AFL were going to provide then it would have at LEAST made sure that the AFL funding for the redevolpment was secured and in the bag before agreeing to the move.

Go back and read the pamphlet. You will see on several occassions that the redevelopment is highlighted as a major factor in why we had to move.

It is a simple thing for the club to just come out and say that the AFL will provide funding. So why hasn't it done so?


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KERMIT... would you stake your balls that the AFL wont contribute???

Dont you just think you might just be jumping the gun here???

Lets just wait and see what happens shall we???

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Synbad it is not me who has my balls on the line. The club and the AFL are the ones who made all the claims to the members last year.

If the AFL are providing funding then I would be delighted because they should. And a lot of it too!

I haven't seen or read anything that states that the AFL are contributing. In fact I am sure that I read/heard somewhere that they were not coughing up anything because we had failed to attrat another AFL club to share the venue with (i.e. the Kangaroos).

If you know differently then please let us know. It is most unusual for you not to be in the know on these matters.


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Where on that article does it say were not getting a cent from the AFL???
It says were going alone.. which means without the other clubs.. maybe???

Are we jumping at shadows??? :roll:

Its way too early to know exactly how the whole thing will be structured...!!!


We will get funding from the different entities...

I dont think leaving Optus was
ONLY about the training facilities ... that was part of it.. it was about moving forward with the new century...

Or did you think we were leaving a ripper ground because we needed training facilities only???

We will have the thing re developed

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And the best part is that our training facility, the place we will have our administration, the place that we will call our spiritual home will be in the place where we have been for over 100 years.

Just like Collingwood who now call dowtown Olympic Park there spiritual home.

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OK lets play the I spy game...

Where in the article does it say that we are getting funding from the AFL??

Going alsone is not teh issue, doing it with our "valued partners" in the AFL is.

You are right leaving OO was not only about the training facilities but you would be hard pressed to pick that up from the propaganda sheet Smorgan put out.

It states quite clearly the the Council and the AFL have stated that they WILL NOT SUPPORT the redevelopment of OO if th club continues to play its home games at the venue.

Look back at my first post for AD's unambiguous quote on the AFL's prepardness to support the redevolpment.

None of this of this is hearsay or jumping at shadows, it is factual an was presented to the members.

If the AFL cough up then great. If they don't then I for one see this as another part in one great big con job on the CFC members and supporters by AD and Collo.


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KERMIT wrote:
OK lets play the I spy game...

Where in the article does it say that we are getting funding from the AFL??

Going alsone is not teh issue, doing it with our "valued partners" in the AFL is.

You are right leaving OO was not only about the training facilities but you would be hard pressed to pick that up from the propaganda sheet Smorgan put out.

It states quite clearly the the Council and the AFL have stated that they WILL NOT SUPPORT the redevelopment of OO if th club continues to play its home games at the venue.

Look back at my first post for AD's unambiguous quote on the AFL's prepardness to support the redevolpment.

None of this of this is hearsay or jumping at shadows, it is factual an was presented to the members.

If the AFL cough up then great. If they don't then I for one see this as another part in one great big con job on the CFC members and supporters by AD and Collo.
But KERMIT... youre just starting spot fires .. cos the article doesnt say were not getting funding does it???

And the CFC said we would and the AFl said we would.. so whats your point????? :?

Youre making abig thing about something that doesnt exist... and you didnt care if we left as long as we ended up at the G cos u have an MCC membership...

so lets just wait and see instead of bringing out the gasoline and staring spot fires aroundf the place with the use of an article which doesnt say ANYTHING like youre implying it says...
Lets play the spy game shall we???

Optius might even have apartments for each member who takes a membership taken out... (The article doesnt say it wouldnt)

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the board was elected - and they clearly arent performing and seeing as i am the Prez i may jsut do nominate for the board :wink:

and im seriously considering not getting a membership next year. like i said, not for the bad performances on the field, i would never not get a membership becuase of that, im talking about the overall effort the club has made from the lack of social club facilities at MCG to the fact that every single item that was promised/put forward to all of us to help "sway" our opinions has not and appears not to come to fruition.

The only thing that club has got right is the sponshorship - and that all lies squarley in the laps of the players - winning 10 games and then the wizzer cup was exactly what the club needed to get the sponsors on board.

and sorry - dont have a sense a humour about carlton playing shit, carlton board doing shit and most of all i dont have a sense of humour about our club getting shafted out of every single bargaining chip that "enticed" us from leaving OO and after the move we dont get a single F@%&#! thing.


The board's not performing? Right, so suggestions are that we'll make a healthy profit this year, memberships are up, sponsorship is up, among other things, but they're not perfomring. Sure there may be some questions that do or do not require answering re ground redevelopment, but that is just one aspect of the board's role. The article referenced in this thread clearly states the club will be making an announcement on July 31, but apparently they're doing nothing.

As for Collingwood looking to secure extra games at the MCG that we've been lead to believe was not possible, yep, I can understand your frustration. But explain to me how the board is responsible for the AFL changing its mind? Yep, maybe the board could have busted a gut to try and get us more games at the G. Do you know they didn't do everything possible? Or are you guessing at what you think happened in order to suit your agenda? To me it says the AFL are reactionary at best, a pack of arseholes at worst. But to you it says the board are incompetent and don't have Carlton's best interests at heart. I guess we're all entitled to our own opinions...

Sponsorship is in the lap of the players? Campo, Davies, Wiggins, Deluca, Fevola, Whitnall ... and all the other whipping boys on the list who apparently can't even play the game if you believe everything on this site ... these guys are solely responsible for the club securing sponsorships from K&S, Optus, Subaru and Dan Murphy's. Criticise the board by all means, but at least try and be credible. And just becasue you're not getting your own way doesn't mean the board is not performing. Have you directed any of this feedback and dissatisfaction of yours to the club (I know you have Malouf's email address) or are you just going to tear up your membership and feel good about yourself chucking a tantrum while not letting the club know why they have lost a member?

Don't post it ... do it. Tell the club what you think, not just us.

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Dan Murphys came care of Mathieson...

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Dan Murphys came care of Mathieson...


What position does he play?

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