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How important is getting the Priority Pick this year for gaining our next premiership?
10 - Extrememely important, no PP, no premiership 14%  14%  [ 12 ]
9 8%  8%  [ 7 ]
8 15%  15%  [ 13 ]
7 - Very important, the PP will be a major factor 26%  26%  [ 22 ]
6 6%  6%  [ 5 ]
5 - Quite important 11%  11%  [ 9 ]
4 5%  5%  [ 4 ]
3 - One factor among many, will be positive effect but many other factors are needed 12%  12%  [ 10 ]
2 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
1 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
0 - No importance at all 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
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5 for me, as handy as it will be it's just another step in the many we need to take to develope a premiership side.


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Will Synbad ask why it doesn't go to 11? 8)

Oh! And 7!


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no 3 for me

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TruBlueBrad wrote:
I'd be more interested in the results of 'How important is the difference between the #1 and #2 picks?'


Pick 1 in the PSD ensures that we can bargain to get a player cheaply. A club may want our 2nd round pick, but we can say to them '3rd round pick or PSD'

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Agree with the PSD draft No1 pick.
In my opinion it is far better than the no 1 pick in the short term becasue (hopefully) we get a ready made player who can have an immediate impact.

The PP and No1 pick are long term options that can easily go wrong. Still not convinced Murphy is the gun that many of you rate him as. Still reckon we go for Hurn and Varcoe (think thats who you spell it) and we should move mountains to try and get Pat Ryder as well.


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JuzzCarlton wrote:
Will Synbad ask why it doesn't go to 11? 8)

Oh! And 7!


Like in Spinal Tap id have to turn up the volume to 11.

PS you also get 2 players in the top couple .. you get best uncontracted player and the first rookie ...

Didnt think our list was that good that we dont need ALL those things going for us.

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Locke wrote:
Agree with the PSD draft No1 pick.
In my opinion it is far better than the no 1 pick in the short term becasue (hopefully) we get a ready made player who can have an immediate impact.

The PP and No1 pick are long term options that can easily go wrong. Still not convinced Murphy is the gun that many of you rate him as. Still reckon we go for Hurn and Varcoe (think thats who you spell it) and we should move mountains to try and get Pat Ryder as well.


I think most recruiters would disagree with your opinion on Murphy.
Easily the standout in the draft.

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Locke KNOWS!!!!! :lol:

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Mrs Caz wrote:
I've gone for 7. While it won't guarantee us a premiership (what the hell can?) but getting 2 picks in the top 5 will certainly help to bolster the talent we have to work with.


Me thinks the same.


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Locke wrote:
Agree with the PSD draft No1 pick.
In my opinion it is far better than the no 1 pick in the short term becasue (hopefully) we get a ready made player who can have an immediate impact.

The PP and No1 pick are long term options that can easily go wrong. Still not convinced Murphy is the gun that many of you rate him as. Still reckon we go for Hurn and Varcoe (think thats who you spell it) and we should move mountains to try and get Pat Ryder as well.

Ryder sounds O.K but they should go for the Clark who's a lock if he's available.
On Varcoe, I doubt they'd go for another slight 6 footer with a potential top 4 pick, but it would be terrific to add another jet to Simpson, Walker, Russell, etc. The Burgoynes, Pickett and now Pearce usually expose us for pace and skill in the wet.


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and draft picks

but here's the thing..... shouldn't we wait till next year for the good picks? :shock:

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Should we take James Sellar or Bryce Gibbs if he doesn't go F-S to the Crows? :lol: I want Ben Reid with the second pick and then Sheldon, or should we tank every game if it' s the only way of getting a PP under the new rules? 8)


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JuzzCarlton wrote:
Should we take James Sellar or Bryce Gibbs if he doesn't go to the Crows? I want Ben Reid with the second pick and then Sheldon, or should we tank everygame if it' s the only way of getting a PP under the new rules?


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4 for me. Relatively important along with many other factors.

Look at it this way ... besides Wayne Carey (who was a freak) take any other player out of any premiership team in the last 15 years and they would have still won the flag.

Therefore, although it will undoubtedly help, we should not get carried away with the importance of just one extra player (unless of course he's the next Wayne Carey).

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I chose 9.

Whilst the PP is available in it's current eligibility criteria it gives you that extra advantage by having 2 picks.

To get them next year, you may have to be shite for more years, or get an extra pick later in the draft, eg. after the first 8 picks or the first 2 second rounders.

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4 for me..

If we get it, we get it.

If we don't get it, we don't get it, que sara sara. Personally I won't lose any sleep over it and won't be any less enthusiastic in my support of the club going into next season and the future..

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3 The PP is just the first step to making us what we once were. GOOD


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Great response there, thanks guys.

The interesting flipside to this question is that the importance someone places on the PP for the next premiership will be a pretty good proxy for that person's expectations of the player that the PP will bring our club.

In other words, according to this poll 23% (ratings 9 to 10) of supporters think the PP player will be the difference between winning a premiership and not. These are HUGE expectations on one kid from a big chunk of the supporter base.

44% of supporters believe the PP will be very significant (ratings 6 to 8 ), while not as extreme, this means that in total 2 thirds of supporters expect the PP player to have at least a very big impact on the next premiership. Again these are big expectations to live up to.

It was also good to see that at the other extreme only 2% think the PP will have no impact. This indicates, that virtually everybody 'gets it' and understands the logic.

Are expectations like this healthy? Have we as supporters got the patience to let the PP kid develop over a normal (unJuddlike) timeframe to become a superstar?



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well already there are people questioning Russell so my take is the kid better produce by about halfway through his second year or watch the shit start being tossed.

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Any chance to get a possible star should be encouraged, the extra pick could yield a future captain or a dud, but given the amount of losses we've had over the last 4 years i'm willing to put up with mediocrity for three more games and role the dice.


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