in my opinion in 2 or 3 years time youll see things looking like this.

FB line....................Edwards ..T Bird
HB line....................Bower.. Russell
c line...Waite ..........Murphy.... Walker
CHF line..................Kennedy (forgot Fisher)
FF line................... Hartlett Setanta


I think Livo might be reserve and Lance and Fev will be traded...

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Oh I didn't know he was THAT good

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Ok you can have a guy in your backline like Leo Barry.. what is he ??? 188cms??? and he plays tall....

Or you can have a guy in your backline like Saddington... who is 193 cms.. and doesnt play it...

What does height mean when you cant do what you should.. or you do what you shouldnt???

SADDINGTON DOESNT PLAY TALL!!!!
PRENDA DOESNT PLAY TALL!!!!

SETANTA CURRENTLY DOES NOT PLAY TALL....

Theyre all tall.. but their height means jack shit in the AFL today...

because they cant hold down Key positions...

Does that make sense????

Or should i draw u a picture???

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Sporn and Bannister have a spot????

This is where your theory falls apart. Up until his knee reco, Saddington was the first defender picked in a side that tasted finals almost every year. Sporn and Bannister can't get a game for the spooners.

10-15 years ago a knee reco would have meant you're finished, now days the miss 1 year and are back at full strength.

Saddo wanted to go home, Swans couldn't hold him, let's be happy - at least until he fails in his first game, then we can heap crap on him.

Saddington is nothimng than more than a running 193 cms player with a knee...but his running mightnt be the same ...

If were looking for talls... but they cant play tall and they cant play on a Hall ..Gehrig.. Tredrea etc...

.. well there is this tribe in Africa????? average height is like 205... they cant play Key postion either.

Saddington hasnt played in how many years???

How many games has he played out of a possible 70 ?in the last 3 years???

Yes he was on ok player .. YEARS AGO.......

Did we bring him over as a KPP or another flanker????

I would have invested and chased a runner.... seeing we just drafted 3 talls....

And yes i know we cant have 20/20 vision.. but now that we have those 3 what do we do with Saddo in 2 years???

A runner we would still need yes???

Coos every team needs runners...!!!

Especially with the new rules...

Now e have another tall who doesnt play tall.. to add to the ten we already have....or developing so they can.. but Saddos style isnt one where he will develop to play tall.
If he does thats great!!!
he relied on mobility

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I agree he's not the ideal key backman we need (would love a Mal Michael but there aren't many available from what I can see - I would have gone after Shannon Watt who has shown himself to be an ok FB) but at least he's shown some capability in the recent past in the defensive half of the field. At the very worst he adds to our senior depth ... maybe he can replace a Teague if he has a similarly sh!t year in 2006 or he gets injured. Best case, he slots straight in and adds some experience to help out the likes of Thornton back there.

PS Not sure the Bannister and Sporn comparisons are valid considering they've played in the seniors predominantly as midfielders. They haven't even been able to play as the 3rd or 4th defender on someone reasonably tall so maybe thats where the MC sees a role for Saddington.

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Haven't posted here before but used to post on TBV and CSC and I distinctly remember Synbad repeatedly telling other posters who queried the likelihood of Setanta lining up at CHF in round 1 2005 that they had no idea.Now I read that he doesn't play tall and he is not a KPP.What happened to him ?
Personally I thought he improved a lot last year.

Saddington wont play on the Halls, Tredreas or Gehrigs and I don't think that's why we recruited him either. I see Saddington playing on the 3rd talls, such as Troy Simmonds, Brad Miller, Toby Thurtans etc. ATM our back line is very inexperienced and it will give guys like Edwards and Bower time to develop in the VFL rather than destroy their confidence like Livo. They will probably get the odd game here and there to get a taste of it anyway. No Saddington would probably mean Teague continues to play on the likes of Stafford, Lade, basically the 200cm resting ruckman. I'd prefer to see Saddington given this job and let the youngsters develop properly in the reserve. Once/If the youngsters are ready for senior football it will probably see Saddington phased out but atleast they will be truely ready.

G'day Heggars! Welcome to TC....good to hear from you.

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Why don't you! None of that occured to me.

Let's find a Leo Barry at pick 52 who is capable of playing every game next year.

Saddington's an unproven commodity and I guess Synbad is right to question his worth even before the season's begun.

Juzz, Synbad is right..Saddington isn't under 23 and wasn't taken in the first round of the draft....he can't be any good....either could the kid we would have drafted with 52 by virtue of the fact he wasn't a first round pick...but thats not the point

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31 games out of a possible 70.Saddington's games

Missed 10 games due to a hip and a knee injury in 2003 before requiring a full knee reconstruction last year.

No one expects him to be as good as Maguire, but if we don't have to play Deluca or Teague on Stafford again and Lance on Pavlich again I'm all for it.If Thornton can also play a more attacking role if the right match up presents that's also a big plus.

Past 10 players to have been drafted at pick 52.

1995 Tony Campbell
1996 Damien Lock
1997 Jordon Doering
1998 Ryan O'Connor
1999 Andrew Mills
2000 Amon Buchanan
2001 Andrew Browne
2002 Adam Selwood (pick 53 after pick 52 wasn't utilised)
2003 Daniel Jackson (pick 53 after pick 52 wasn't utilised)
2004 Dean Limbach

And the Swans are paying part of his salary so we've really lost out on keeping pick 52.

I'd be very surprised if Saddington is as slow as Sporn.

Setanta can play CHF every bit as well as Saddington or Lance can play KP.
ThaT doesnt mean he will be any good ...
Nothing happened to him. He just has more development ... you know what the word development means right??

Were not going to fix our poblems till the draftees come of age.. and that means more development.. 3 to 4 years.
Pseudo Key position players and pseudo ruckmen arent going to take us anywhere.
We need runners!!!

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33 games in the last 70 and were talking about what a good player he is...
Thats not even half .

Yes injury has robbed him.... if he was any good i can guarantee you the Swans would have kept him.
The days of finding the diamonds in the rough are rare... Chambers, Longmuir, Mott, Teague, Digby,Clarke etc etc etc....

And yes Brad youre right.. he doesnt have a lot going for him compared to the others we took.
Theyre unknown potential.. Saddington we already know is not an answer to CHB even before he did his knee and got traded.

And Juzzy???... yes we dont need the season to start to know what he is capable of.. because we know what he is capable of before he did his knee.. and it wasnt that great.

what you people dont get is were not going to find our Leo Baarry overnight with someone elses rubbish... it wont happen that Saddington is a star next year and were in the eight.
Its going to take time and we dont need a band aid approach.
Our Barry will come from the 3 we picked upo this year.. or the players we pick up next year.. not with a Saddington.

Youre dreaming if you think Saddington will suddenly turn this club around. He wasnt that much chop when he was 100%.

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Synbad - Bannister and Prendagast are both pretty good runners

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Well now we can add a guy with a bung knee..

We need to get into the mind set of growing our own.. and those we bring in (from other clubs")have got to be considerably better than what we already have.
We already have enough average players.. whoever comes in needs to be brilliant.. to add some brilliance to our team...

We have enough toilers.

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And a #4 draft pick with a bung shoulder....hooray for us!

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I do believe I have been saying that for quite some time now. Pick52 (51) should have gone on a kid

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Yeah but Elliot???? the difference is he is untried.. so he might just be Judd ...

Saddington we know what he is... a good honest toiler.. who was not good enough for CHB at the Swans..(before injury)

Its not what we want.. but JK.. is a guy who can play KP... because thats his style...

And yes Hooray for us!!!

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