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Elwood Blues1 wrote:
re: Bannister...is what we need vs Melbourne in terms of speed and size...
Its players like Roberston and Bruce that destroy us....both are that odd matchup in terms of pace size and marking power.
Roberston is too strong in the air for your average size defender but too quick for a bigger player....Bruce is also a very smart mover for a player of his size and they both know where the goals are....players like Teague, McGrath cant cope...I would have played Bannister vs Port and also vs West Coast and tried to get some confidence into him...we have to find out if he can make it as a senior player and this season.
I just dont get the selection policy sometimes with certain players..


Doubt Bruce will be a massive danger coming off a limited pre-season and hamstring injuries. Robbo posses a problem for all teams, but it wouldn't surprise me to see Walker play on him for is "development".

I think the the Melbourne runners are our greatest danger. If they cut lose then who cares who is playing in defence they will be torn a new arsehole.

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I think McGrath may start in the back pokcet with Carrazzo and Bentick sharing the in and under midfield role.

McGrath Thornton Hartlett
Walker Whitnall Scotland
Simpson Bentick Stevens
Fisher Waite Lappin
Betts Fevola OHailpin
French Koutifides Murphy
McLaren Houlihan Russell Carrazzo


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SPILIJ wrote:
My team for round 1:
B. CARRAZZO LIVINGSTON TEAGUE
HB. LAPPIN THORNTON McGRATH
C. WALKER STEVENS SIMPSON
HF. WAITE WHITNALL HOULIHAN
F. FISHER FEVOLA BETTS
FOLL. FRENCH KOUTOUFIDES SCOTLAND
INT. McCLAREN MURPHY BENTICK BANNISTER
EMERG: RUSSELL DELUCA BRYAN


I have released Whitnall & Walker out of the backline.
I just think we need to become more attacking and not be so defensive in our game plan. With Whitnall, Lappin & Walker all in the backline it just sends out an very negative message that we are there just to defend and stop our opposition from kicking a big score.
We need to put faith in Livingston and Thornton that they can do the job.
Obviously Saddington I have left out due to injury.
I have left out O Hailpin & Hartlett as I really do not think they are ready for the big time. Blackwell I could not include given that Bentick is in the side. We cannot afford to have too many slow runners playing at Telstra Dome.
Bannister is an interesting one. I know most people have scratched his name out, I just think that we need a player that can run all day and at the same time can put a tag on the opposition star midfielder.
We do not have a specialised tagger like every other side and I think he deserves another go. He had limited opportunity last year after finishing top 10 in the B&F in 2004. He is versatile also so if need be we can put him in the back half.
As long as Prenda, Wiggins, Longmuir and Davies are not in the side I will be happy.


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Carazzo will have to play on Davey...the latter being in fair form at this stage of the season....

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I can't help feeling that something are issues between Bannister and the selection panel.

What compels me to feel this is that Bannister couldn't be tackled during the early (3 weeks ago) intra club games. He was ferocious attacking the ball, the man and ran through the lines. He showed the young fellas what it takes to be an AFL player. He has put on more muscle and was eyeing the CHB role....well that's what I have seen and heard.

He has tagged Buckley and others successfully and we all know he can run all day. He always does well in the PP time trials...in fact, he's been impressive. He can mark, and he can kick too.

I have always had him thereabouts on the team list, not completely left out as he seems to be at the moment. I always hoped he would be the good marking, tall running 190cm HB.

There may be a good reason for his ommission at present....I hope so...anyone know anything about the Bannister situation?


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bondiblue wrote:
I can't help feeling that something are issues between Bannister and the selection panel.

What compels me to feel this is that Bannister couldn't be tackled during the early (3 weeks ago) intra club games. He was ferocious attacking the ball, the man and ran through the lines. He showed the young fellas what it takes to be an AFL player. He has put on more muscle and was eyeing the CHB role....well that's what I have seen and heard.

He has tagged Buckley and others successfully and we all know he can run all day. He always does well in the PP time trials...in fact, he's been impressive. He can mark, and he can kick too.

I have always had him thereabouts on the team list, not completely left out as he seems to be at the moment. I always hoped he would be the good marking, tall running 190cm HB.

There may be a good reason for his ommission at present....I hope so...anyone know anything about the Bannister situation?


Fair call Bondi...I'm a Bannister fan and if he could cement a spot then Andrew Walker could be used in more positive role and we might start getting somewhere...Bannister deserves better treatment and the only bloke getting a worse deal is Brad Hodge....

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Bondi,

I think the big issue is that we have too many players around the 190cm mark and that for CHB we need someone taller and bigger.

At 190cm and around 88kgs Bannister is too short for a key post and is out reached and out muscled by most of the opposition teams key position players. IMO his best chance is as a tall running half back flanker and when he gets his chance he has to seize it whiuch is something he hasn't done to date.

You are right he seems to be either used as a tall utility or run with player by the match committee but that is becuase in his opportunities to date he has not shined. IIRC he played a lot of games in 2004 but never claimed a spot in the team as his own and made the reserves regularly perform to get a chance.

At CHB we are using Lance because of his ability to read the play and set up other players but that's through necessity and not design. He tends to stay close to his man when they are in the forward 50 and let them run free when they venture into their wing/forward zone. IMO we use either Barnaby or one of the midfielders to try and block up the holes and give us four players across half back on the rebound.

I think the lack of a key position tall down back is the reason we have recruited Saddington and have hopes for Hartlett and Bower.


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Elwood Blues1 wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
I can't help feeling that something are issues between Bannister and the selection panel.

What compels me to feel this is that Bannister couldn't be tackled during the early (3 weeks ago) intra club games. He was ferocious attacking the ball, the man and ran through the lines. He showed the young fellas what it takes to be an AFL player. He has put on more muscle and was eyeing the CHB role....well that's what I have seen and heard.

He has tagged Buckley and others successfully and we all know he can run all day. He always does well in the PP time trials...in fact, he's been impressive. He can mark, and he can kick too.

I have always had him thereabouts on the team list, not completely left out as he seems to be at the moment. I always hoped he would be the good marking, tall running 190cm HB.

There may be a good reason for his ommission at present....I hope so...anyone know anything about the Bannister situation?


Fair call Bondi...I'm a Bannister fan and if he could cement a spot then Andrew Walker could be used in more positive role and we might start getting somewhere...Bannister deserves better treatment and the only bloke getting a worse deal is Brad Hodge....

yeah I'll go with that...anything to free up AW...

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i guess teague has been keeping bannister out of the side by taking that defenders role ..

but even teague seems to be struggling lately ..
so tend to agree .. give bannister a go , he seems to have the right attitude !


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Following last night's effort, are we giving our second and third string players not enough credit?

Anyone have any fresh ideas for a 22 listing?

Oh... and bump. :twisted:


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FB: McGrath Livingston Whitnall
HB: Walker Thornton Lappin
C: Simpson Stevens Carrazzo
HF: Fisher Waite Houlihan
FF: Betts Fevola O'hAilpin
R: French Koutoufides Bentick
I: Hartlett Murphy Scotland Mclaren

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That's a really well balanced side Effes. I'll go with that team.

Saddington (out injured) would have been a possible inclusion, but hasn't proven anything yet.

With the following pressing for selection IMO

Bannister, Teague, Russell (HB)

DeLuca, Byran (HF)

Blackwell (MF)

Not much depth really, when I look at it this way. Hopefully with this team Bentick and Carazzo can provide defensive midfield pressure that seems to be missing.

However, with a touch of luck with injuries this year and strong committment from all players who take the field, including the development of Kennedy and maybe Bower and Russell further into the season, I think we have a squad that can truly entertain us in 2006...and wet our appetite with the exciting prospect of success, and finals in 2007.

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Going on that lineup - I would probably dump Scotland for Russell at this stage going on form and rotate Teague in for Livo depending on matchups.

I'd also play Murphy in the pocket and have Santy running off the bench. I don't think he's ready to constantly present for a whole season on the HF line.

I'd also work Whitnall forward. Fantastic to see a huge midfield rotation on the ground.


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The irrefutable #1 team for 2006:

Carrazzo Livingston Bannister
McGrath Whitnall Thornton
Simpson Bentick Walker
Houlihan Waite Lappin
Fisher Fevola Betts
R: French, Stevens Kouta
IC: Murphy, Scotland, OhAilpin, McLaren

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Carrazzo Livingston Hartlett
Lappin Thornton Russell
Simpson Bentick Houlihan
Fisher Whitnall Waite
Kouta Fevola Betts
R: French, Stevens, Walker
IC: Murphy, Saddington, McLaren, Bannister

Emerg: McGrath, Scotland, Teague,OhAilpin

Kennedy to replace whichever tall is lagging (and reshuffle accordingly)when his shoulder is right and he gets a couple of Ants games under his belt.

Murphy, Carrazzo, Betts and Bannister to rotate through middle and rest starting mids on bench, forward and back pockets or back flanks.


The side I'd like to see this year.


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FB: McGrath Livingston Carrazzo

HB: Teague Thornton Lappin

C: Simpson Bentick Walker

HF: Fisher Waite Houlihan

FF: Betts Fevola Whitnall

R: French Koutoufides Stevens

I: McLaren, Murphy, O'hAilpin, Scotland

Having Livingston in the side demonstrate how weak our defence is, however, I've heard he played OK last night.

Whitnall deep in the forward line makes sense to me, as he's not the most mobile forward, but knows how to make space.

Walker can be free to run on the wing.

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FB: McGrath Livingston Carrazzo

HB: Thornton Whitnall Lappin

C: Walker Bentick Simpson

HF: Fisher Waite Houlihan

F: Betts Fevola O'hAilpin

R: French Koutoufides Stevens

I/C: McLaren Hartlett Murphy Russell


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FB: McGrath Livingston Hartlett

HB: Walker Thornton Lappin

C: Carrazzo Stevens Simpson

HF: Whitnall Waite Houlihan

F: Betts Fevola Fisher

R: French Koutoufides Bentick

I/C: McLaren Hartlett Murphy Russell

If Saddington is fit and in form, he replaces one of Livo and Hartlett.

I don't understand why Hartlett is being pushed to one side so easily. He's 95 kgs, runs pretty well, is the correct height and has more natural defensive instincts than Livo.

Kennedy coming back poses a huge problem for us - where the hell do we put him??


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B:Whitnal, Livingston, Carazzo
HB: Walker, Bannister, Lappin
C: Simpson, Stevens, Murphy
HF: Waite, Kennedy, Houlihan
F: Fisher, Fevolva, S. O'hAilpin
Ruck: French, Bentick, Kouta
Bench: Bryan, Thornton, Blackwell, Scotland
Emerge: Jackson (r)

Side Note: McLaren, Betts and Teague are so overrated its not funny. Dennis shouldn't play them until they CARVE up the bullants. Not just do well... CARVE UP!

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