Look going to get help isnt a bad thing.
Paying 92.5 % while were down and saving 1 mill a year plus the extra 7.5% amounts to around 1.600.000 dollars.
Over 3 years its around 5 mill including interest.
Just in time for when were about to peak and make an impact.


Its doubtful the other clubs will sit on their hands if the AFL give us a hand with taking over the ground...in which case we will in my opinion go to the AFL for the 1 mill grant.

Unless someone can find a stronger revenue stream...

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I've said it before but there was another way to impose a penalty that didn't mortgage the next 5-10 years.

The AFL should have reduced our salary cap and made us off load the few stars we had. Draft picks would have been used on young players (cheap) and we would now be seeing a real recovery.

Sure we needed a fine and maybe some draft penalties but they went way too far.

Contrast this to how lightly Fremantle got treated the year before us (conveniently only uncovered just after the national draft rather than jsut before).

KERMIT, noone in theiur right minds would have paid those 'stars' what we were paying the,... the majority were on water tight long term contracts.

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But I wonder if the AFL could have stepped in and declared any contracts null and void, given that in the long run, any player contract is with the AFL as much as any one club, and the AFL "owns" all the clubs, names, logos, colours, etc.

The Warriors' penalty, 4 points, is simply removing the 4 points from the 2 byes.

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Even the Goverment can't legislate out of existence a legally created contract. So no matter how grand and important the turds at AFL House feel they aren't able to declare null and void a legally created contract under common law, this is not a possibility.

And keep in mind that the "brown paper bag" contracts that Carlton entered into with players were not illegal and would have held up as a lawful contract in a court of law - they only breached a rule of a not very important Regional Football competition.

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Fair point.

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I agree we paid stupid amounts back loaded which made things worse. They were, however still worth something and clubs would have taken them at a negotiated price.

Re the contracts and the legals; many argue that the draft and salary cap is illegal and a restraint of trade. If they can make that work they could have easily have stepped in to assist Carlton in getting rid of some of the higher paid players.

There is a fair legal argument (and I would wager there are few Lawyers and perhaps even a QC/SC or two posting on this forum who know the law better than me) that would suggest the AFL Player Rules with respect to Draft and Salary Cap are a restraint of trade and a breach of the relevant government legislation under the Trade Practices Act - but until someone tests them in a court of law we wont know. I think that is one of the reasons the AFL stamped so hard on John Elliott and Carlton at the time - they were shit scared of having their Draft and Salary Cap rules declared invalid under a legal challenge.

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The NRL contested the draft and won it got tossed out

The players now are preparing to take on the cap next

Posted this in talking sport last week

http://www.smh.com.au/news/league/playe ... 87185.html

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The salary cap would be illegal if taken to court and knocked over.
Current status is its legal.
However, all contracts are legal and could not be challeneged succesfully in a court of law providing of course they have been written up correctly and abided to.

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...and they don't have yellow post-it notes on them saying "Don't send to AFL"...

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