Andrew Walker - Well Done

phninja · **Posted:** Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:52 am

woof wrote:

Who is the player that should replace him in the backline? He could be wasted even on the wing if his replacement can't create the dash and drive he provides.

Sounds like JR if he can be consistent enough.

born in 72 · **Posted:** Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:55 am

After seeing him play on Robert Murphy in Lavington I was worried that his game was becoming to negative. In that game he didn't see much of the ball but did a great job defensively.

I'm very happy to have been proven wrong in rounds 1 & 2. Even though he has had 3 kicked on him in each round I honestly believed they would have been kicked on anyone, and perhaps 1 or 2 extra. His run out of defence has given the Blues a new dimension (its something we haven't seen since Andy Mckay) and any doubts about his disposal a quickly being eroded as his confidence grows.

woof · **Joined:** Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:51 am **Posts:** 4919

phninja wrote:

woof wrote:

Who is the player that should replace him in the backline? He could be wasted even on the wing if his replacement can't create the dash and drive he provides.

Sounds like JR if he can be consistent enough.

I watched JR yesterday. Andrew Walker will catch a cold playing on the wing.

nightcrawler · **Joined:** Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:48 am **Posts:** 2891

Elwood Blues1 wrote:

Won the ball well and gave us some drive but Farmer kicked three so that took the gloss of for me...needs to be further up the ground on a wing where he can do his stuff without worrying about a man..dont like seeing him wasted down back trying to save games ..

I believe one of those was from a 50m penalty that Scotland gave away. When I've seen the replay I'll have a better idea as to whether he was to blame for the other two.

Elwood Blues1 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:10 am **Posts:** 4827

woof wrote:

Elwood Blues1 wrote:

Won the ball well and gave us some drive but Farmer kicked three so that took the gloss of for me...needs to be further up the ground on a wing where he can do his stuff without worrying about a man..dont like seeing him wasted down back trying to save games ..

Who is the player that should replace him in the backline? He could be wasted even on the wing if his replacement can't create the dash and drive he provides.

Pick a Jordan....either Russell or Bannister..noting Bannister was our best in the Bullants...Walker is an offensive weapon in my books and I want him creating up the field not having to worry about Farmer...lets try and win games not save them...

woof · **Joined:** Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:51 am **Posts:** 4919

Elwood Blues1 wrote:

woof wrote:

Elwood Blues1 wrote:

Won the ball well and gave us some drive but Farmer kicked three so that took the gloss of for me...needs to be further up the ground on a wing where he can do his stuff without worrying about a man..dont like seeing him wasted down back trying to save games ..

Who is the player that should replace him in the backline? He could be wasted even on the wing if his replacement can't create the dash and drive he provides.

Pick a Jordan....either Russell or Bannister..noting Bannister was our best in the Bullants...Walker is an offensive weapon in my books and I want him creating up the field not having to worry about Farmer...lets try and win games not save them...

Jordan Russell is not up to it as yet and you want Jordan Bannister to play on Aaron Davey and Jeff Farmer?
Sorry the "team" will be worse off. It is about what is best for the team.

nightcrawler · **Joined:** Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:48 am **Posts:** 2891

Elwood Blues1 wrote:

woof wrote:

Elwood Blues1 wrote:

Won the ball well and gave us some drive but Farmer kicked three so that took the gloss of for me...needs to be further up the ground on a wing where he can do his stuff without worrying about a man..dont like seeing him wasted down back trying to save games ..

Who is the player that should replace him in the backline? He could be wasted even on the wing if his replacement can't create the dash and drive he provides.

Pick a Jordan....either Russell or Bannister..noting Bannister was our best in the Bullants...Walker is an offensive weapon in my books and I want him creating up the field not having to worry about Farmer...lets try and win games not save them...

Bannister is also reportedly running around as a loose man in defence with no opponent so his mention in the bests needs to be taken with a grain of salt. He wouldn't have that luxury in the firsts.

Elwood Blues1 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:10 am **Posts:** 4827

I want Walker developing as a player who will win us games.....with the amount of ball Freo had in the middle they were going to win....Farmer wasnt the problem...a nuffy like McManus on the wing had 29 possies....Bell had about the same..Carr and Black also had a field day.....dont you reckon we should have tried to win some ball in the middle and if you did want Walker tagging then maybe try McManus or Bell..at least stop the ball getting down to Farmer and co...

Bannister has pace and is bigger than Farmer and I belived could have done the job..agree Russell is unproven and maybe not ready but alos needs some experience...why not give it to him at the coal face....

exsing · **Posted:** Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:22 pm

Tex is an absolute gun. His two games so far in 2006 have been brilliant to watch and his dash off defence is so exciting to watch.

He has shown that he is prepared to run through half back and kick long. As he gets more and more consistent, he is going to be the ABSOLUTE GUN we all knew he is going to be.

You have done well Andrew. Keep up the improvement. You have the support of us all!

SOS · **Joined:** Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:00 am **Posts:** 294

nightcrawler wrote:

Elwood Blues1 wrote:

Won the ball well and gave us some drive but Farmer kicked three so that took the gloss of for me...needs to be further up the ground on a wing where he can do his stuff without worrying about a man..dont like seeing him wasted down back trying to save games ..

I believe one of those was from a 50m penalty that Scotland gave away. When I've seen the replay I'll have a better idea as to whether he was to blame for the other two.

Not only did Scotland give away the 50 (at least the umpire thought so - I'm not that convinced), but he gave away the free kick by allowing Farmer to run him down in the midfield as he ambled along. Walker couldn't be expected to prevent that.

camel · **Posted:** Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:43 pm

Elwood Blues1 wrote:

woof wrote:

Elwood Blues1 wrote:

Won the ball well and gave us some drive but Farmer kicked three so that took the gloss of for me...needs to be further up the ground on a wing where he can do his stuff without worrying about a man..dont like seeing him wasted down back trying to save games ..

Who is the player that should replace him in the backline? He could be wasted even on the wing if his replacement can't create the dash and drive he provides.

Pick a Jordan....either Russell or Bannister..noting Bannister was our best in the Bullants...Walker is an offensive weapon in my books and I want him creating up the field not having to worry about Farmer...lets try and win games not save them...

Fair points Elwood. But I guess the team, and AW in particular, are still very much a work in progress. I don't see any problems in taking a step by step approach. Walker hasn't even played two full seasons of footy yet, so the more experience he gets the better.

dannyboy · **Posted:** Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:21 pm

and in both games he has been an offensive weapon.

is Johnson for the Lions not an offensive weapon?

Wirrapanda?

Elwood Blues1 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:10 am **Posts:** 4827

dannyboy wrote:

and in both games he has been an offensive weapon.

is Johnson for the Lions not an offensive weapon?

Wirrapanda?

When you have the team that Brisbane had you can afford Johnson playing off his man and creating...he often got goals kicked on him but Brown, Aker and co would kick a lot more so it didnt matter, some of those might be from the good work of Johnson leaving his man and doing his own stuff but my point is we dont have the talent base that Brisbane have/had and I want my best offensive players being where the action is trying to win me the game...
Michael, Leppitch, Scotts etc are in a different league to what we have down back....you could afford to have a creative player perhaps being caught out..they were good enough to cover him....we dont have that depth of talent....

dannyboy · **Posted:** Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:43 pm

or

one of the components of a strong back six is your offensive weapon. So, for now, we use walker. When/if Russell makes the grade me may take that place, or we may use them both because at TD the attacks all start deep and you have the runners streaming forward.

And runners are blokes who cover territory. Fisher covers almost as much as anyone. AB also does (note that great snap off the pack deep in the foreward line). Fisher is more than a marking forward. he leads, he presents, he chases, he tackles, etc. He runs all over the place - God Bless him!

camel · **Posted:** Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:14 pm

Elwood Blues1 wrote:

â€¦we dont have that depth of talent....

Yet. But it is being developed. We defiinitely still have some holes, no doubt about that. But as each year passes the number of guys in our best 22 who are unlikely to take us to a flag are slowly being weeded out, while the nucleus of a potentially very good squad is making steady, but sure progress.

Comparing our current back 6 to the treble winning Brisbane back 6 of the early noughties is hardly a fair comparison. How about comparing our back 6 to the times of the Brisbane Bears and Fitzroy back 6s from which their premiership sides were largely based. From little things big things grow.

shotmov · **Joined:** Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:37 pm **Posts:** 113

dannyboy wrote:

and in both games he has been an offensive weapon.

is Johnson for the Lions not an offensive weapon?

Wirrapanda?

He's like that now. But he will be better than both i nthree years. He will be like Kouta was in 2000, winning gameso ff his own boot. Will be better than Cooney/Deledio/Murphy. GUN!

ryan2000 · **Posted:** Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:24 pm

Elwood Blues1 wrote:

Won the ball well and gave us some drive but Farmer kicked three so that took the gloss of for me...needs to be further up the ground on a wing where he can do his stuff without worrying about a man..dont like seeing him wasted down back trying to save games ..

Which is EXATLLY why i want Bannister brought back into the side. Free up Walker to a wing posistion!

Kouta · **Posted:** Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:31 pm

Despite playing on the HBF he's still had more inside 50s than Cooney.

http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/compare_players?tid1=103&pid1=2004017&tid2=115&pid2=2004097

As Rodney Eade stated on the AFL's site Walker is threatening to go nuclear and he will kill the opposition once he's released to the wing. But he can stay on the HBF until Russell's game and body are developed enough to play week in week out. His stats show that he's good enough to cut up the opposition even when he's playing as a halfback flanker.

Bannister is nothing.

Zippy · **Posted:** Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:47 pm

I think there might be a chance that Denis knew what he was doing all along playing Walker as a tagger and in the backline. :wink:

He looks very good there so I reckon leave him there while his confidence is building and he is in awesome form.

It was ridiculous/funny how many people (especially opposition fans) wrote him off. He still isn't even 20 yet. :shock:

jimmae · **Posted:** Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:59 pm

ryan2000 wrote:

Which is EXATLLY why i want Bannister brought back into the side. Free up Walker to a wing posistion!

Bannister is not AFL material, he is trying to be a 190 cm athletic KPP with no outstanding attributes and a poor field awareness. It's not going to happen dude, he either plays a loose man or a tagger or he is gone. I vote gone.

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