Yes we know cripps is good inside but we always win the inside ball. We have all year...
I don't know how much of other gangs you guys watch. You'll never get games played on those terms outside of a couple of games a year.
Cripps will be given a running working over this weekend.
He will give somebody a hammering inside... But right now the game has grown into different dimensions.

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yes agree synners and that's why we need to develop runners on the outside to complement cripps and judd
other teams are killing us on the spread time and time again - we are slow generally around the ground but dont spread nearly as well in any case and coupled with our inability to hit targets means we can be thrashed even when winning heaps more contested ball than opponents

I watch plenty of gangs of midfielders.
I played in a gang. I was an outside player who loved it on the inside but we had big bodied mids to take the punishment ball up after ball up over 100 minutes of footy.

You acknowledge the existence of a midfield gang.
The members are heterogeneous not all the same.
You refuse to focus on an important component of our gang, an individual with a unique role.
A 20 yo 6 gamer who is as fast as the current Brownlow Medallist. Hang on, the current midfielders arse is twice as big, almost Diesel like. What does that tell you? Fat arses in the midfield don't belong because they're too slow?

He will be playing when our best inside players are gone: Judd....ummmm whose the other one?
Carrazzo? Curnow? Dunno about those guys but Cripps will lead the inside work this year and in the future.

The difference in the gangs of the current Brownlow medallist's and Cripps' is the BMs spread well, run both ways but they got smashed by a bunch of 6 foot 2 midfielders coz that's where the game is heading. Priddis didn't get smashed. His gang got smashed.

Interesting that Cripps is of that mould.
Cripps is one of a gang. He plays his role well. It's obvious in every game he's played, and he's only 20yo, immature and undeveloped.

Imo he plays it better than anyone we have got and StKilda and when he was allowed in the middle against Richmond he beat them too.

Imo you are being unreasonable in your fixed summation of Cripps because you made up your mind on Cripps before he played a game.

Now he is playing and delivering. You can't ask more than that, but you are.
He is one cog in that wheel/ gang, call it what you like, but you can bank on him doing his job week in week out.

Proof is in the pudding.

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Carlton rank 6th in contested possessions. And yes contested possessions are not always on the inside of packs but it is an indicator that we are not brilliant at it but in the top 3rd.

We rank 12th in uncontested possessions and 12th in disposal accuracy. Again not perfect data but it does indicate what we all have seen, that is, we win it 80% of the time and turn it over 60% of the time. (just my observations). So disposal and keeping possession needs the most amount of work

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Important data baz.

Improve our efficiency.
Keep possession.
Don't bomb it to a 2 on 1 in the forward line.
Key Forwards to lead to space.

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Key forwards to not drop chest marks.

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That certainly helps Dukes

All of the components of disposal and possession like:

Kicking to advantage be it in front of the contest to the advantage side or behind
Option selection
Ball hang time
Hand ball to space
Knock on to advantage.

Etc.

The side either lacks the skill sets or lacks the concentration to execute more times than not

Needs to be fixed

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And key forwards who can kick straight... and some other players as well..

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The key to greater efficiency from us will come from being able to do better under pressure.

Handballs out of the pack while being scragged; kicking while at pace; kicking for goal after a hard lead to make space for a better option. Every time you do the acts involved in creating these moments, you're buying space off one or more opponents, which starts to stretch the defence and take their focus away from reading the incoming ball.

We need to play the game at a faster pace and back our judgement to do so. Cripps, Bell, Murphy, Judd Boekhorst, Docherty, Buckley and Tuohy are showing the way there. We still need more.

This list isn't amazing, but it's not 2004 redux. The midfield/flank group is oozing potential talent right now. Well done to all involved in procuring/developing that.

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that's called training jimmae

Absolutely but the transition from training to delivering it on match day is largely a mental one. The players can believe all sorts of things publicly and privately, but its on them when they walk out there to make decisions, and to follow (or not follow) instruction.

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20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

It's as much about instinct as following instructions. Players rarely have the time to assess various options unless there's a stop play or a run and carry situation. That's where the onus is on the coaches to develop the players instincts so they make correct decisions under extreme pressure. That only comes from repetition of game simulation drills.
Ratten had a heap of deficiencies but his match simulation training was very good which is fortunate as the players were coming off a very low base with Pagan.

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AFLCA votes: Round four

St Kilda v Carlton
8 Patrick Cripps (Carl)
8 Marc Murphy (Carl)
5 Tom Bell (Carl)
4 Lachie Henderson (Carl)
2 Ed Curnow (Carl)
2 Zach Tuohy (Carl)
1 David Armitage (StK)

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Curnow? Which A grader was he tagging that warrants a vote? Give a scragging tagger a vote for drawing even with Ablett, but for [insert name of B grade mid]?

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Really?

So lets give no brownlow votes when sides play those on the bottom of the ladder.

Logic

Play on shit players get no vote

Play shit sides give no votes?

Are you for real?

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Right on. Who the flower do the coaches think they are. Malthouse and Richo have no clue what instructions these players were following.

In fact the votes for the AFLCA Award should be given by footy fan forum posters.

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Only one club failed to win a Rising Star nom from 2011-13. Carlton. But Patrick "Dripper" Cripps makes three since with Buckley and Menzel.
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I have a hard enough time reconciling the idea they're allowed to vote come election day...

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By the looks of it, one of the coaches gave Bell BOG.

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Who did he beat? What influence was there on the game? Was he in our top 10?

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