Stories vs facts.

As soon as I hear those words muttered in business or in conversation, I switch off and guide the conversation towards departure lounge.

Can't handle bullshit artists, and those who can't handle the truth. Despise them.

Hey, when Ive got a beer in my hand and its a casual occasion, the bullshit, and "true stories" are on tap, purely for entertainment and stupid fun. Amazing how gullible people up with stories till I get to boom boom.

Footy journalists have to create stories, and no doubt managers feed a bit to achieve their desired end.

I think Vossy was honest in his interview. Why lie? It will all come out in the wash if he does.

I believe Charlie is "open" to a trade, if it helps VCarlton, and I believe him when he said "I will be at Carlton in 2026".

Plenty of good reason for him to stay at Carlton for his sake and Carlon's. That's the flip side, and how I think it will end.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Two years for Kemp feels overs.

The wheels keep turning, and the changes will keep coming, and our window opens again.

We have enough A and B grade kids:

KPDs: O'Farrell, Dean
Backs: Carroll, Cowan Charleson Wilson
Ruck: O'Keefe
Mids: Smith Walker Lord B.Campo Chesser
Wing: Holland L. Campo
HF: Ison
F: Moir [i]

WE have a few dependables in the 23-27yo range

KPDs: Boyd
Backs:
Ruck:
Mids: Walsh, Cerra
Wing:
HF: Cottrell, F.Young
F: Kemp Evans

WE HAVE STARS 28yo plus Weitering McKay Curnow
ONE YEAR LEFT FOR GOOD PLAYERS Newman Haynes Saad

Cripps, Pittonet, McGovern,Young, Motlop, Durdin Williams Acres will be replaced in 2027-28, if not 2026 IMO

Here's how I think it will go. We need to add quality and depth and aim for the Holy Grail. McGovern and Motlop may save one of the delistings below IMO

1. TRADE BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE: TDK Compo (pick 9) plus Future 3rd
2. DRAFT DEAN: SOS Compo (20-27) plus ??? see Point 5.
3. TRADE with WCE for CHESSER: Round 2 (38) plus steak knives
4. TRADE with Hawks for Reeves: Round 4 (56) plus Future 2nd
5. DRAFT match bid ISON: round 4 (Delist White)
6. DFA: (Delist Fogarty)
7: MSD 1: (Delist Binns)

8: MSD 2: LTI possibly/ likely (VFL WAFL SAFL)

ROOKIE: BEST KPD AVAILABLE for Cincotta's spot (VFL WAFL SAFL)

If we can get a Round 3 pick for Motlop, there's more amo for the trades above. Wild card E. Hollands (either get a pick, or scare him into action as he is listed)

Window is not shut. List looks even better in 2026.

New players next year Smith, Newman, Walsh, McKay, Curnow, Cottrell, Acres, Chesser, Reeves, Ison, Dean, and Best available player (TDK compo plus)

Lose TDK, SOS, Doc, Lemmey, Fantasia, Binns, White, Fogarty Cincotta Monohan

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

I’ve got to be honest… in this scenario, I think Caro is closer to the mark and Vossy is saying what he needs to say. That is not to predict how it will play out.

Two years makes some sense as those type of injuries are 15 months to the be at the point where you as a player do not think of it anymore.

Eddie reporting that Silvagni has completed a medical at STK.

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"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch

Where there is smoke there is always fire. I believe Curnow is lying and I believe Voss is lying.

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Jagga

So much talk about Curnow. Media thrives on this stuff.

Ultimately, it’s a simple matter. If Curnow wants out then it makes sense for his manager to make his future at Carlton untenable and force a trade. He knows that it will be difficult for other clubs to come up with a trade scenario that suits us.

From our point of view time to be ruthless and not cave in to this pressure. Only accept what is suitable for this club. If it doesn’t suit then he stays. Simple.

Over this unfairness of clubs like Geelong, Swans, Hawthorn and Collingwood continually winning on deals that benefits them as they are destination clubs. It literally makes no sense to help them maintain sustained success.

https://x.com/7AFL/status/1962821832815317411

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"Put him in Hawthorn's side and he's Jack Gunston on steroids."

Kane Cornes on the disrespect to Charlie Curnow's footballing ability

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"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch

Yes but put Jack Gunston in Essendon*'s side and he's Jack Gunston on steroids.

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#DonTheStash

now that made me snort!

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Now Kane Cornes has joined the sharks and the freeding frenzy in the media.
Last night he put forward the flawed opinion that Carlton are the "least efficient side when kicking the ball inside f50"
Did he mention the players out injured?
Walsh, Cottrell, Newman, McKay etc?
No...he had an argument to put forward & damn pesky facts that get in the way. Did he mention the potential of new blood on the forward line? Particularly Moir..to complement Curnow? No. Did he mention that more attention goes to Curnow when McKay was out of the team? No.


Then for the vision to back up his point he used a kick from Kemp vs the Bulldogs on the wing. Kemp will be playing in the forward line next year, Kane.

To further back up his point, he used vision of Walsh kicking into F50 vs Bulldogs. It was a good kick, but the Bulldogs player with African heritage was playing in front. What would Kane have Walsh do, a banana split kick in the sky where it ascends at 90 degrees over Bulldog player's head, then stops mid air (defying gravity) and then downwards at 90 degrees seconds after? That kick doesn't exist Kane.

"This is the sort of rubbish that he gets served up" He shows Haynes good kick on the wing that had an angle on it directing Curnow to lead towards the boundary. GWS's excellent defender read it earlier. Not Haynes' fault. Sam Taylor is either the best full back in the league or second best. What do you expect? Curnow to win every contest.

Then his final example was a kick on the wing from DeKoening vs Adelaide. They had crowded the flank. His examples were largely forwards kicking into the f50...again..poor examples from Kane. Stats can be used to build an argument, injuries ignored.

Did Kane mention that Collingwood bombed their kicks into f50 vs Adelaide two weeks ago? Under pressure teams do that.
So to build his flawed argument he used vision of 3 kicks from forwards into the f50, one from a ruckman, and two that were against top notch defenders.

All of this can be rectified next season with a full team..and with Jagga Smith added to the mix.

Now that is funny.

Kane is right, we are the worst kicking team in the comp, particularly I50

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Go Blues

To be fair to Kane and the guys on that panel, they were highlighting Charlie's potential, which has been muzzled by our poor fwd 50 entries. They weren't saying we couldn't rectify it, just that it had caused some to devalue Charlies this season

I think any talk of Charlie's 2025 has to take the 3 surgeries into account. When he's right he's one of the better players in the entire comp.

We give him to Geelong we're giving them a flag.

I'd still rather we sort whatever rift he has & trade Harry instead

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#DonTheStash

Horrendous. But, it’s not just the kicker. The target isn’t completely blameless here.

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

Yeah nah. It’s an inexpensive contract & the guy can play multiple positions.

Don’t be surprised if there’s a trigger in there for an extension.

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

Yes!
I think there are a few causes:
1) The way we move the ball often has the kicker under immense pressure when they release the ball (this might be game plan or it might be players not adhering to the game plan)
2) Often the players ahead of the ball are not moving enough so not many options for the kicker other than a bomb or kick out very wide
3) Just a poor kick or a poor decision
4) Poor forward craft / teamwork (Geelong are particularly good about creating options for each other).

Good teams are able to create space ahead of the ball for players to lead into, and then those up the field kick to advantage for the leading player to run onto… doesn’t need to be centimetre perfect. Makes their delivery more effective and their ball use look much better.

Also, Charlie wheeling around from 55m is a bit like a gambler… he has an inflated view of his success rate!