Mitch Cleary
@cleary_mitch

Breaking - Unrestricted free agent Jack Silvagni has chosen St Kilda as his new home @7NewsMelbourne @7AFL

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And that around the corner kick for goal. And the play on instead of going back. Re Charlie.

Needs to be stamped out. Old fashioned footy. Mark and go back. Drop punt.

Thats the directive that needs to be given.

@#$%&! off Jack and take your old man with you.

Club needs to strip everything Silvagni related out of the club !!!!!!!

Its these days i want someone like Big Jack back.

So do we get 2 x band 1 compensation picks for Judas and TDK?

Yeh what do we get. It wouldnt surprise me that Silshitna gave his darling baby boy $800 instead of $850 just to stuff us up.

Please someone that understands, what are we getting?

That makes it 5 ex Carlton players on the Saints list.

there's no way on earth the AFL give us 2 band one compo picks - just isn't going to happen.

Band one for TDK, sure but they will find a way to make Jack's compo band 2. Maybe they say sliding scale of AFL salaries or some formula to make a % that of course equals band 2.

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And the father son is a problem the AFL say.

They should only allow one free agent per club.

There is no equilisation at all. And now we have to rely on the make uppey AFL formula to see what compo we get.

Not talking about the amount of the contract, just the length. I doubt anyone else is offering two.

I'm wary of an undersized KP coming of an achilles tear that bad, and committing a list spot for a year potentially too many. We've been overly generous with these fringe calls in the past and it's caused issues with list spots (LOB, Lewis Young, Carroll/Dow decision, McGovern).

regarding CC if we dont get what we want NO DEAL and charlie stays and in 6 months time all forgotten and everyone moves on , now we just need to nail picks we receive for Tdk and Jack .

He's getting $850,000 per year which puts him in the top 5% of AFL players in payment, yet for some reason the AFL is only going to give Carlton end of 1st round compensation.

Seems fair.

Meanwhile, Gold Coast can roll out their picks in the 40s to get about 5 academy players on the cheap. Here's pick 40 and 42 and 52 for the 2nd best player in the draft. Nice.

Seems fair.

We should receive 2 band 1 Picks 9,10 , given the remuneration TDK & JSOS have secured.
I’d be disputing anything less than a band1 compensation for JSOS.

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There’s a points allocation for every component of the contract. This is the first year that contract length has had a points allocation.

A five year contract receives maximum points. There are no points allocated past five years.

So, both De Koning & Silvagni tick the box on THAT criteria.

Maximum points for player salary is allocated to the top 5% of all salaries (30-odd players). Importantly, the figure used here is the average guaranteed amount. No front- or back-loading. The new contract’s value is compared to the previous year’s contracts. This is how Battle, Perryman & to a lesser extent, McKay earned Band 1. Their new contract was written for a TPP that was $2m+ greater than the season it was being compared to.

Fair to say De Koning’s $1.8m ticks the box. Jack might not get there as early estimates were that the cut off for this year was going to be $900k. There are no bonus points (that we know of) for contracts that are double the cut off.

Maximum points for the player age component goes to 25 year olds. Of all the weird aspects to this set up, this one is the weirdest. Players aren’t eligible for free agency until they’re 26. Also, given a five year contract is the same whether you’re 26yo or 36yo, this component seems redundant.

Anyway, Tom ticks the highest box he can. Jack, being two years older, would be less.

So, Band 1 would be:

Tom: Yes, Yes, Yes
Jack: Yes, Maybe, No

Finally, there is a provision for the club to argue the end result. So, it might be worth popping a couple of gemstones into the offering box and firing up the KC.

The argument would be whether the excess of Tom’s contract is enough to make up the shortfall in Jack’s. We might be able to frame the argument as one club paying an average of $1.3m, for the maximum five years.

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Well do whatever you have to do to get MAXIMUM compensation as if they can make it up that Gold Coast only has to pay pick 40, 42 and whatever for Zeke Uwland (2nd highest rated player) then they can somehow ensure Carlton gets about pick 10-12 for Silvagni. Pick 18-20 doesn't really cut it.

Suns - fourth highest rated player in the draft- "The kid with dancing feet" Dylan Patterson...let's see what the Suns have to pay to get him. How about pick 50 and 52? or something equally ridiculous.

So many makey makey up rules to benefit certain clubs.

My understanding is Silvagni will be in the top 5% of wage earners. Surely that deserves maximum compensation.

Tap, the DVI has changed.

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It's still ridiculous in my opinion. Ok I exaggerated a bit. pick 40, 42 and whatever is what they did to get Daicos.
Now they need one pick in the 20s let's say then pick 40, 45, 50. It's harder but still crazy.
Zeke Uwland...bet you whoever has pick 2 won't pick Uwland as they want to keep good relations with Gold Coast, so he will slip to pick 5 or whatever but on market value he should be pick 2.

Let's start by not predictably bombing inside f50 first before we blame the forwards...

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Oh. Right…

Because the Carlton to St. Kilda pathway has historically always lead to success…

Good summary Cru. I predict we get Band 1 for TDK, Band 2 for SOS. So Picks 9 and Picks 21. JSOS would have struggled to be worth a 3rd rd pick in a trade at the end of the last year, so after 8 decent games in defence, that is not a bad result.

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