every which way but

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

UP......

Every which way UP.

That's the way we're travelling.


But hey............ at least we get pick #1 and hopefully we let Kreuzer (a honest and talented player who would kill to win a game but is somebody wed happily let go so we can get pick #2)......... cause that's all that matters.

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We simply must let Krooz go , if he can get double the length of term and more money, good on him - its win win all round.

Use pick 1 on Weitering

Trade pick 2 for Treloar , swap some later picks or try and get another GWS player in the mix Plowman?

I think Brisbane will get pick 4 compo for Leuenberger

Trade Hendo to Geelong for pick 10

Trade Menzel to Adelaide for pick 14

Trade Yarran to Richmond for pick 17

Get Carlisle in PSD

Second Round pick could be 23? (based on FA compo for us, bris, adelaide - danger, WCE - selwood)

I know that is extremely ambitious and well off what is realistically likely to happen , but even half of that happening would be a massive turnaround and kickstart back to the top

5 picks in top 25 and Treloar and Carlisle

Bell for Redden or Aish would be a dream too

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Apart from trading pick two, I would be happy with all that plus try to get 14 and 15 for Gibbs to Adelaide (assuming Dangerfield compo).
If we get 1 and 2 we can pick up the CHF and CHB we need in one go from the draft.

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Im confused . If we dont " embrace the draft " then we are topping up. Now we are in a position to finally embrace, lots of people want us to not. Some people are never happy.

..that would a big kick start,, plus F/Ss as well.. ....if possible trade yarran to Melbourne for Gawn, I heard that rumour a few months ago, if krooz goes I'd do that..

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I like it Gro but I'd get more value for pick 2. Brisbane have a hard on for Schache so I'd offer them a trade of pick 2 for pick 3 if they throw in Stefan Martin and trade Aish for Bell.
Then I'd offer pick 3 to GWS for Treloar. If GWS don't accept, take Francis with 3.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

I like it Gro, ring SOS and make it happen...

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12-5-2015 - Go WADA
18-8-2015 - Suffer Hird* u lying flower
12-1-2016 - CAS goes bang, happy new year.. Drugcheats forever..

Reckon Yarran is worth more than pick 17 He has sublime talent. And if cCarlyle turns up at PP, offers to work as a groundsman for free and pay us to play...Still don't take him. We have already filled our dud quota with Jones. And if we even contemplate swapping anything for Carlyle i will know that despite the talk nothing has changed. Really we don't need any more overpaid underperforming sooks.

Gawn just recently signed until end of 2018.

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"They're [REDACTED]'

List management porn.
Refreshing that the club is in a position of strength in most of these deals, especially as we have PSD threat up our sleeves- and we're not waiting around for clubs to throw us crumbs for the likes of Jeffy and Robinson and losing Waite for no return.
They had to go but getting nothing in return was galling.
SOS has been handed the Golden Goose.

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I just want my old club back ... (edit) maybe I have!

If we get pick 2 for Krooz. Let's use it on draft. Get the bookends and build from there. This is 1 opportunity we must not stuff up. I don't want Krooz to go but if he chooses too, let's maximise on these 2 kids and our future!
Henderson for Geelong's 1st pick.
Yarran and Menzel stay unless offer of top 10 pick comes our way and more importantly their hearts aren't with us. Too talented for or anything less and we need to believe in the new coach to turn them around!
Use Bell for Aish. Get Carlile in the PSD draft and make a statement

I think one thing we can all agree on is that we are now at Ground Zero. Adding more secondhand bricks to a crumbling foundation is not an option anymore.

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#GUILTY

You people are dreaming if you think only offering Pick 2 will land Treloar.
Plus He is going to the pies.

Pick 1 - Weitering
Pick 2 - Francis
Pick 10 - Curnow
Pick 14 - Weideman
Pick 17 - Gresham
Pick 19 - Rice
Pick 30odd - Zac Smith from GC
Pick 40odd - Best Midfielder available
Pick 60odd - Silvagni
PSD - Carlisle
Trade Bell for Aish

It's the moment in time for Carlton that if the AFL play funny nuggets and deny a band 1 for Kreuzer, we must raise hell.

What are the Pies offering that is better than pick 2?

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

We are in the box seat.

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Winston Churchill

Seriously how lucky is SOS.

Gets to load up at GWS and now at Carlton.

If Kreuzer leaves i don't trust the AFL giving us pick 2.
If we get pick 2 it will definitely not be offered for Treloar.
We cannot match the contract the pies are putting up and also he wants to go there.
He will not be coming to Carlton.
Pretty simple but feel free to keep dreaming.

If Kreuzer choses to walk, I wouldn't be adverse to keeping Yazz if Bolts thinks he can turn him around.

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