maybe a trip to the hairdresser might make them feel better.
#mommysboys

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It happens too many times to be an aberration. We are not good enough and the sooner we come to grips with that the happier we will be. Lower your expectations about this club to avoid having your heart broken by them.

Thought we were gone when Joseph & Duigan came into the side & Jeff was left wallowing in the magoos

Knew we were gone when McLean was subbed & we couldn't @#$%&! kick straight in the 1st qtr

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Cheats never prosper (except in the AFL)

Correct about Jeffy.

Remember also we were down one before the first bounce with Warnock in the team.

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THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

If a 'rebuild' is in order, I want us to follow the Dogs' method of focusing on pure footballers who won't shy away from the contest and building from there.

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#GUILTY

Recruit some players that know how to kick a football

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agree 100%

the North model is a good one too

And that captain was streets ahead of this one in that role. We have to relieve Murph of the job. Terrible leader. Compare his game to Watsons'. Other teams must laugh at us.

Any chance we will get an explanation early on when one ump called 'touched play on ' when kicked out of defensive 50 by Essendon* and when marked Mcinnes tackled and was pinged for 50? They kicked their first goal.

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Had brekky at the 'Top Paddock Cafe' in Richmond yesterday morning with a mate...Caarton supporter of course...
We studied body language.... in the cafe and on our list.

We came to the conclusion the club has very few Alpha males. Tuohy being the closest thing.
Our captain walks with very short steps.. and he plays that way too.

Too many metrosexuals...
Too many senstive types...

There are no Mark Maclures in our list....
Very few lions and very many timid souls

Im seriously expecting us to further fall away.... we had our run .. our window was to win one elimination final... we fulfilled our potential..

Sticks its time....

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22 behinds. Game set match.

Last 15 mins was so predictable it was sad.

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As camel mentioned earlier, it was the bit of play half way through the 3rd, where we lairised along the members wing that did my head in. 20 points up at the time & started showing off. Essendon* goal, 14 points. Knew it was going to go to shit from there.

Can't recall seeing us handball to teammates under pressure more often in 1 game

Even when we were missing all those shots I didn't think we were that much on top of them. We just played shit. Pure & simple. That said it was a pretty poor Carlton squad out there.

Overall thought it was a pretty rubbish game too - if I was a neutral supporter would've left the ground a bit meh

The most frustrating irony from all this is I can't really enforce my usual weekly media ban after a loss to Essendon*, because I want to tune in on Monday - to hear about bloody Essendon*

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22 behinds is no coincidence.... its a lack of leadership of someone stepping up to the plate when it counts.
We dont have lions.. we have timid souls.
We shouldnt look at the bad kicking as an excuse... its not!!.. bad kicking is who we are.. its what we are.. its our DNA.
There is noone brave to kick it.
Even our best kicks Yarran and Tuohy couldnt... we needed someone who would calmly step forward and slot it.. and stop the junk.. we didnt have that person... we dont have that person.
Even out of the side.. who would have completed that Herculean feat of kicking it under stress?Judd? Carrazzo?
Ony 2 guys worked on their kicking tirelessly Turhy and Setanta.... i know!!!.. ive seen it..!!.. and its shows.
The others follow the Judd .....
Greg Williams did say Judd had to work on his game.. he was ignored... Juddy didnt work on his game i reckon .. not with the intent that he should have.
Williams went and worked with Jobe Watson.. and Jobe is a different player now.. its not just drugs.. he kicks goals under pressure...

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you are not a shit footy club because of this...

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This game was a carbon copy of earlier in the year

To the T

In the earlier game White I'm pretty sure it was had two shocking moments late in the game, first was the hapless attempt to tackle where the Ess player bounced off him. And the second was the gutless attempt to mark at the death. Well McCinness' pissweak attempt to mark at the death, in fact he didn't even try instead tried to punch the ball when he should have had the kahoonas to mark, was a carbon copy of the White balls up

Simply amazing

In both games terrible kicking for goal and a third tall defender completely shitting themselves under pressure at the death cost us the game

McCINNES just like White ought to be dropped instantly for this effort. I know he is a kid but that's just not good enough.

Under pressure true characters are revealed

I feel sorry for Mick. History has shown you need cattle, and history has also shown AFL players for one reason or another kicking for goal is the one skill that hasn't improved over 100 years.

Mick is a realist, he knows too well the problems with the list

He spoke early in the year of the need to find big bodied midfielders. He hinted strongly Gibbs was the type of player we need. But we have very few of these big bodied quality mids, and the back line is putrid as evidenced by McCinness brain fade - so Gibbs is deployed a HB or to tag etc.

We simply don't have enough talent

No depth

Means we have to fill holes with our quality

Simpson and Walker and Gibbs and Scotland fill holes

But even there it's not ideal. Walkerlays HB because he can run and carry but he is hopeless one on one as a defender, has no idea

Should be a wingman bar the fact we have no quality down back so he is deployed there

What do we do? We can't go off and get 6 grea players in one off season, can we?

I have said before thee ae 20 players who need to go, that is 2-3 years of turning the list over.

So it's essentially a new beginning, starting all over. Murphy will be 28!

All because of Hughes' deplorable recruitment under Ratten and Sticks watch

Synbads is right, HbFs. Before last year when was the last time we took a mid early? Lucas who can run but kicking is suspect and is another soft top ice cream. Now in the Twos.

Lack of mental toughness, see Lucas soft, see McCinness last night, White earlier game, Yarran soft, Garlett soft, etc etc, this is compounded by a poor leadership group. Waite showed up by Hurley. Gibbs terrible kick to seal it. betts terrible kick to seal it. Murphy not fit but that doesnt excuse his refusal to impose himself at stoppages. Terrible. Only Simpson stood up!

What to do?.

The list problems are interlinked because the football field is interlinked

What would be great would be to pull a Syd type trade for an experienced quality mid size defender. Like the one they got from Adel those years back. Not mature angers who can't kick like Duigan. Actually go and get a quality proven defender, or two.

Then get a quality mid, and probably not Dale Thomas cause his ankle is a worry and he's not a big bodied mid. If you could get Dale and a quality big bodied mid that would be huge. But it's easier said then done.

Blues need to bite the bullet and give up a lot to get a lot.

Yarran tried his guts out las night but poor kicking, lack of belief to seal it himself, a terribly soft effort that swung the momentum their way, stupid reckless frees undermined his effort. He's clearly trying but is it too late for him?

We have wasted so many years on Armfield and Robinson who will also be retards out there.

What would we seriously get for the following, not saying you trade them all but what would we get then decide which ones to try and shop around ...

Yarran
Warnock
Hampson
Betts
Robinson
Armfield

Through trading these types, through FA, through maybe trading our first pick, can we get some proven, quality, hard defenders and some proven, hard, quality big bodied mids???

Everyone says we need a quality big fwd but I'd say that's jus about impossible to get unless you sell the farm, and anyhow Hendo and Cas look promising IMO. Had Robinson not been a complete dick Cas would have snagged a goal late just like the two strong marks he took in the goal square last week. Robinson you complete flower!

It's ironic after years wasting picks on HBFs we actually have none other than Gibbs and Simpson and Walker. What a disgrace for the recruitment dept. An indictment

Get two players in the mould of Mattner, those types. Frees up Walker and Gibbs so they can go to midfield permanently. Stop plugging holes. Duigan had one god year and Laidler is a cripple. It didn't work.

We simply must get more quality into this team.

This list has never finished higher than fifth for a good reason.

And now Judd, Scotland, Carrazzo, Waite are nearing the end. So the vacuum is in full effect. Need even more talent.

Mick will improve some players but he can't turn unskilled hacks into good players, once a hack always a hack. And he can't turn 20 shit players into gold.

Geez wouldn't it be nice to have Roughie and Buddy.

Outcoached by Simon Goodwin and then carried on like a pork chop in the press conference.

We don't have enough players with a never say die attitude or a good football brain , just a lot of guys who can run with the ball but have no idea what to do once they have to get rid of it.

standards....!!!!

u need standards...!!!!

Who expects greatness from all those arund them???

judd... who doesnt work both ways and cant kick?

murphy....he loves skirting the packs

we have very few leaders...

youre supposed to have them in all lines.

we scratch to find one...


simmo can hold his head high... but he is a lone warrior.


our front liners are cheats... lets face it...!!!

different kinds of cheats from the type Essendon* have...but still cheats!!!...

too many short cuts.. too many corners cut.... and too much acting going on.

we know where were at now....!!!...

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How about we come up with our own model.

North choke just as many times as we do in close games.

Last night has @#$%&! pissed me off like no other game before!
How @#$%&! hard is it to kick a goal!!!

Again the game should of been done at 3/4 time. Instead we let them stay in it and then in the last, it was just a case of them getting that goal to cut the margin back to a couple of goals wiich allowed them to realise they could pinch it. From there they just ran all over us. It's like I was forced to watch a replay of the last qtr the first time we played them. A replay I avoided at all costs.

Thanks Carlton. You [REDACTED] me again!

Outrageous comment

Seriously you don't know what the @#$%&! you are talking about

Is it his fault Armfield misses the lot with zero pressure?
Is it his fault Gibbs and Betts can't seal it ?
Is it his fault Robinson is a complete flower who ruined Cas' opportunity to seal it, and gives away 50m?
Is it his fault there was no Judd, Carrazzo, McLean, Walker?
Is it his fault Warnock can't drift forward and take a mark and kick a goal like most other rucks because he has the heart the size of a pea?
Is it his fault Waite is an eternal disappointment as a footballer?
Is it his fault Hughes has recruited rubbish for years especially a lack of focus on midfielders with size?
Is it Micks fault at the death McCinness flowers up, Graham fumbles, Murphy the skipper fumbles, Waite fumbles all under pressure?

We had about ten more shots on goal. Tell me again how it was Micks fault?????

Simply outrageous, another stupid comment by another clueless poster. are you related to Verbs? Yeah blame the coach. LOL