Players can have sh*te years and then turn it around the next year.
It's called resilience.
Hopefully Curnow can see that before he is traded to a club that has a history of losing Grand Finals by big margins.

One player I have admired is Rod Ashman. He requested a trade to North in 1980. He didn't get his request, turned it around and was the best player in the whole comp. in 1981. He won pretty much every media award on offer and somehow missed out on the Brownlow.

essentially we had two full forwards that wanted to occupy the same space and play the same role. i've wanted to ship one out for a few seasons now - sell high, bring back some more quality and depth.

I get the impression these people leading Carlton's recruiting are dills if we base it on newspaper reports being accurate.

All these B grade players being floated around as options from the Swans.

Ollie Florent! oh...wow! oh wee!
below average kicks, marks, possessions, tackles, clearances

Will Hayward...below average forward, low kicks, marks, goals etc..

Seems like Swans are taking out their B grade list and putting in an A grade forward.
Membership might not be necessary for next year if they are that clueless.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/iconi ... f44?page=1

You could have just stopped there…

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I agree, two first rounders and a b grader shouldn't move the interest needle at all form our recruitment department. All these dill journos keep forgetting that Charlie is contracted and we don't have to do any deal at all. Other clubs will need to pay massive overs to get any deal done.

We need Errol (or equivalent) PLUS two top ten picks as a minimum.

Agreed. An A grader and two good picks is the bare minimum to even discuss anything.
Not an assortment of plastic knives and forks left in the back drawer.

id take an upgrade to Geelongs offer - 3 first rounders and Hayward

I'm glad there's been a lot mentioned about Carlton front end loading, in particular, Charlie.

He says he's happy to take a million less than he's been paid. He has 4 years to run on his contract. Read what you will from that.

Point is, many posters refuse to believe that Carlton front loaded any contracts, but has been the case since SOS days, and Austin has continued the trend.

Charlie front loaded
Harry front loaded
Weiters front loaded
Walsh front loaded
Crippa front loaded

B and C graders paid in full, as a rule, due to their humble earnings.

We had a warchest before TDK and SOS left. Its normal practise to ensure we pay 95% of SC without overpaying soldiers.

With Charlie coming off our books (he's been paid $100-200K front loaded over last 5 years), we add about $6-700K to our warchest.

SOS has been saving his 5% pa for last 5 years and has a 105% SC at his disposal. He did the same at Carlton, but wasn't able to attract stars and settled for McGovern, Williams and Martin who he front loaded a lot. In fact we know with Martin GCS couldnt match our offer of $1M in his first year.

Fingers crossed we land a superstar this year or next, when the team is settled, and injury doesnt feature as it has over last 4 years.

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The good thing about Haywood is that he plays the HHF role to perfection, has Swans development under his belt, and only costs Swans $600K pa.

Swans first rounders?

2025 pick 10...which may end pick 12
2026 pick 12 with Charlie playing which may end up pick 16
2027 pick 16 a draft featuring Tassie handed every 2nd pick, which may end pick 30 with clubs matching Tassies selection of FS, NGA and Academy candidates.

Are they enticing enough for Port to consider for Butters? or, do we give up on Butters, and focus on Humphries?

If we do package pick 9 & 10 for pick 2, I wonder if we would use that to entice Port, or we take it to the Draft. WE could offer 2025 pick 2, 2026 F1, 2027 F1 and still get Walker. The compromised drafts after 2026 will be devalued with Tassie onboard

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“So you’re trading your contracted superstar key forward for middling picks and players?”

“Yes Dave.”

“Even though you said it would take a monumental offer?”

“Correct Dave.”

“And you didn’t get a single A-grade player or asset in return?”

“That’s right Dave.”

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For Charlie to be in Sydney now checking out his new environment, there must be a deal Swans have offered we are keen on, and I wouldn't be surprised if the picks offered can get us a highly rated player outside of Hayward and Florent.....hoping it may be Humphrey.

Fingers crossed.

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So how does Sydney constitute bayside living. Someone explain that to me. Is the SCG close to Bondi is it?
He looks like a flog on the news ‘seeing what happens’.

I will be super sad, but at the same time want him gone. It’s a weird feeling.

Mostly im worried about out lack of forward KPP.

No thanks to Will Hayward...
a) he's old for someone to target for recruitment in a big deal...been in system since 2017
b) he doesn't average that many goals a game, but pulls up his average making road kill out of the weaker teams. 4 against a weaker team in 2025.
c) he isn't elite in any category.

Then the Swans' picks BondiBlue has mentioned that they will offer. They are awful picks 12, 16 and 30. No thanks. Picks that entice are in the top 5 picks.

Pick 2, Future 1 in 2026 and 2027 is a bit overs for Butters in my opinion. Butters only kicked 1 goal in 2025 in 20 games. Genius player, gutsy ...I get it, but still a bit overs, but at least that is a respectful offer...the rubbish the Swans are offering is disrespectful. I get it, they don't respect Carlton and feel they can push Carlton around.

We need midfielders that go forward and kick a few.
Look at Brisbane... they are dual weapon midfielders/forwards. We all need Hugh McLuggages. He is arguably one of the top 5 players in the game.

The big unknown is Jagga Smith. Camporeale in 1995 stepped in first year was a gun. If Jagga Smith provides that depth... we just don't know.

Wish Charlie requested GC. How sad for us he didnt nominate a bottom team.

Unlike flower Melbourne getting two top 10 picks for Petracca.

We are just unlucky in this situation.

I just hope we turn those 1st rounders into good players and 1st rounders for next year.

HUGE flog.

Yeah, SCG is pretty close to Bondi. And Coogee. And Maroubra.

But totally agree he's a flog.

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Perfect Charlie replacement then

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Yes Bondi Deano has been suggesting the Humphrey angle earlier in recruitment thread

Heard interview with Ainsworth today saying he has been talking to his mate Humphrey about his family issues but wouldn’t commit about Humphrey being traded

GC seem steadfast on not trading him but fingers crossed

If it turns out to be Hayward Florent & a couple of shit picks then that would be weak as piss by us. I don't think it will be though, still think there's a bit of sting in the tail of this thing to come.

Sydney must be absolutely gagging for Curnow now

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I reckon Sydney are working with GC to somehow prise Humphrey out to send south.

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