tap in 79 wrote:
Humpers wrote:
Swans 2025 & 2026 1st rounder plus Hayward is fair IMO.
I'm not too bothered about Florent.
But no way we give them back pick #22.
Hayward has never finished in the top 10 in the Swans b&f....and they think Carlton will take this bloke in a trade???
They clearly think Carlton's list managers are friggin stupid or they thoroughly disrespect Carlton, thinking the Blues are a substandard team that will take whatever they are given.
So disrespectful.
I wouldnt judge Hayward's ability from Sydney's BnF results.
We went hard at him last year. We wanted him. Sydney wanted him more and offered him a 5 year contract. That's his value.
In 2024, Sydney made the Grand Final. Will kicked 41 goals, 16 behinds and 10 goal assists. He also had 47 Inside 50's.
He was considered for AA as a HF.
In the same year, 2024, the Bloods top 10 were Heeney, Gulden, Warner, Grundy, Blakey, Rowbottom,
Florent, Jordan, Lloyd, Papley. All of those top 10 players deserved their spot in the top 10. No shame not making top 10 in that year.
Put it this way, Hayward is more reliable than Elijah. We need to be improving on every line, especially forward of centre which is what cost us 6-7 games in 2025.
Hayward is 26yo.
27 before the end of this month.
He was really good in 2024, I was keen to get him down here.
2025 was more aligned with his mean level over the past five years, and as someone alluded to earlier, when you sort his AFL tables by disposals and goals, you'll find a bit of flat track bullying in this year's numbers. From watching him this year, I cooled on him quite a bit. Possibly adapting to a new coach, but he was too quiet too often. Makes me think he thrives as part of a well oiled machine but isn't one to pull us out of the mire. I think the rumours of our interest in Humphrey are also a major reason Hayward leaves me feeling flat.