Anger hasn't subsided. Still absolutely livid.

How anyone can have any confidence in these flaky players is beyond me.

Time and time again we lose games we shouldn't. Not mentally strong enough and we pick and choose when we want to work.

The way I feel right now they can clean the joint out and start again. Starting with the captain.

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We are on our way back...

..we have some other leaders [with flaws], but McLean got the early injury.. ..am a big fan, but the fact he's our best midfielder this season, poses the question to the rest of the midfield.. ..Judd, a bonafide champ that we've seriously worn down is out injured.. ..Krooz, plays finals footy every week and you know would have smashed some of those stoppages and would have run and exhausted himself for the jumper and his team mates, out injured.. ..

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hate to pick on mcinnes but that passage of play where he went the spoil instead of taking a fairly straight forward mark and then knocked simmo over to create a path for zaharakis to kick the winning goal was terrible. i hope someone tells him how terrible it was and doesnt go soft and say it was ok because he was out with a knee injury or because he is only young. thats the sort of shit that leads us to lose these games and until brain fades like that are eradicated were going nowhere.

Thought malthouse was headhunted by the club.
I didn't realise malthouse signed himself up.
Everything about the club is an embarrassment. Some of you are working it out now.
We are average because we are crap.
So I'm not sure why the attention is only on the players and Mick.
The problem is higher up....

President. Board. CEO. recruiters. Development.

What do you guys want? Have I not been warming were crap?
If we do not have a total independent review from top to bottom.. This will be the norm.

Don't worry about winning.
If we make the eight we should decline it. We are dressed up in St Vincent's De Paul clothing and attending a gala.

Let's not embarrass ourselves further. We're out of or depth... I seriously can't believe our midfield.

Three years minimum but need to clean out the hierarchy.

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we were absoute crap last nite simpson was our only good player, i thought that warnock worked hard and showed more than kruezer has for 2 yrs, bell looked a ripper busting open the centre too bad his kicking is average, menzel will be a champion lets see how long it takes to turn him into crap. Murphy Gibbs hang your heads cuz you crap, back men how about trying to stick close to your oppenent that giving them a 5 metre break every time waite jamison and mcciness all guilty of that last nite

How many games this season have we lost a player in the first quarter? I'd say about 1/4 of them?

I think that just about sums it up perfectly.

There should now be no illusions as where we are at the moment. Plenty of work to be done. I just hope we have the right people to do it. Leadership at this club has been the elephant in the room now for the past 15 years.

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"our electorate seeks less to be informed and more to be validated." Sad times.

Are there free nibblies at this gala?

Daddy needs to eat.

Why don't our blokes just aim at the points? Chances are 95 % of the time they'll miss and goal results?

Ive calmed down and had another look at the game.

Armfield made just one selfish mistake. otherwise he was damn smart, cagey and effective. Leave him a lone. He shouldn't be anyone's scapegoat.

Last night I was so disappointed in Yarran and Bettsy for missing shots at goal. Yazz did allright but he really should sharpen up his kicking for goal.

Bettsy was largely ineffective....imo.

I also had to bite my lip with regards to McInnes. Look, as a TAC player his resume stated he rarely gets beaten. I have been happy to hear great reviews on McInnes, and before and after the knee I have yet to see what makes him a bright prospect for the future. Last night early on he was too loose and didnt play with confidence imo: I hope we don't just live in hope he makes the grade. At this stage I'd say its hope he makes it.

Waite was our weakest link last night imo.

Our mids battled but didnt really have the muscle (other than Bell who I can see a great future with CFC) to dominate regardless of how many high draft picks we have. Our delivery forward was never going to give our talls any chance and with Robbo and Bettsy flying against our talls along with the oppositions double teaming, how the hell are they to succeed. Dumb footy

Murphy tried but didnt stamp his name on the game. Gibbs was wasted.

Tat 2nd quarter we played some dumb footy in the first 15 minutes. Kept on bombing out to HB or the wing from defense only to their talls. Dumb and lacking system.

The thing that I didnt like at all was signs of selfishness or lack of talk. Couldnt tell which it was from the telly.

I could see early in the game Waite was off his game. For a guy who kicked 7 against them in round 11 I dont know why he wasnt tried forward and give them some trouble.

Disappointed in the result, but Essencheats were no easy beats as many suggest. They were switched on and went in hard. They played with intensity and we did well to wind them in in the 2nd and then go past them in the 3rd. They really had us on the ropes in the 2nd...partly due to our bad kicking in the 1st.

In the end, it was poor kicking that let us down....and for a team lacking depth missing Judd, Kreuzer Walker and Carrazzo really hurt our chances. They are better options than Joseph, Duigan, Graham and Warnock.

We need to bolster the midfield come seasons end with some good trading or poaching. Give the GWS Warnock or Hampson, Duigan, Laidler and our 1st rounder, although I dont think picks is what they're after.

I hope we play finals and have Kreuzer Judd and walker playing...and no more injuries....just to have something to cheer about in the first week of the finals.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

might help

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Yes, but he is one of our 'leaders'

Along with Waite - dumbest footballer, to literally, ever play the game
Jamison - rookie list battler still
Gibbs - pea heart nancy
Carazzo - butcher, 360 slow the game right down then dish to someone else under pressure
Murphy - soft as butter
Duigan - really? Sanfl spud

How is that a leadership group? After 5 years of top quality picks??

Whatever, I'm over it. I've been saying the same things for the past 3 years now, and unless the entire list is chopped to bits I'll be saying it for another 5.

Soft, no leaders, terribly unbalanced and nothing coming through. Just like last week...the week before...the year before....the year before........

It's not changing anytime soon. IM REALLY OVER THESE PLAYERS AND THIS CLUB.
The same every year.






The only hope is that Mick gets in Swan and Sticks face and demands changes, starting with the entire playing group. Only 3-4 players worth keeping

..say that again..

..Knockers puts his hands on his hips and catches his breath while mids wrestle for the ball right in front of him.. ..Knockers barely crosses the 50m arcs either fwd or back, unless he's resting deep [and by resting, i mean sleeping].. ..Knockers, with all that height has only taken 3 marks in 2 weeks, and all 3 were in space and he took them on the chest..

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Filthy with the result but I thought the majority of the players had a real dip. Gamestyle was good although some players need their roles tightened up a bit. You dont want Robbo, Bell or Duigan running past for the handballs as they dont have the composure to finish.

Disappointed to see Duigan get a game. I know some are saying he was given a final game but that's fantasy stuff. The bloke isnt up to it and he's definitely not an AFL wingman. Credit to Malthouse though, he let the team play to their strengths.
As I said before the game, scoring efficiency will be the key and we shot ourselves in the foot.
The worst part, seeing Hird with that smug @#$%&! grin on his face,

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Like I said, I didn't see the game but sheesh all my non-Carlton supporting mates were really pissed off we didn't win.

Could be the first time in 30 years we actually had the majority of footy fans on our side and we BBQ'd them.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

I was thinking about this today. Can we actually refuse to take a spot in the finals if its handed to us ?

And an Independent review !!!

Lets get it done !!!!

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Yeah, it's been frustrating. It certainly hasn't helped us this year. Doesn't excuse the result, but our injury issues this year have been underestimated compared with last year (both on gameday and throughout the season).

Realised last night that Waite has the turning circle of a B double

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"I had to eat"

I've settled down a little, so here goes.
As much as I loved Simmo's game, he highlighted the very issue we have on ground at critical moments. Leadership!
He refused and not once mind you, to have a shot at goal!!!!! We did not have 1 player "wanting" to kick the goal at a crucial time. NOT ONE. They all wanted to give it off for someone else to kick it or more importantly make the error. We need to find some onfield leaders. That's it in a nutshell.

Fev always took a shot on goal. Always.