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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:58 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Monday mrorning.

Thursday mourning.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:59 pm 
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You have to give it to Voss.
He's a professional.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:08 pm 
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Tomorrow is FRIDAY

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 7:36 am 
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DocSherrin III wrote:
Effes wrote:
People will laugh at me and that's fine, but I reckon we had the right man - Bolton - we just went too far with the 'play the kids' philosophy.


I'm not laughing - that's just wrong. He was only slightly better than Teague, but both were a massive mistake.



bolton was as bad as it gets. however many years later and he's still miles off being HC material, tells us what we need to know.



i like enright, but i'm pretty sure he's signed a succession plan to takeover where he's at? i vaguely remember reading that recently.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 7:37 am 
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Scotty12000 wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Monday mrorning.

Thursday mourning.



mourning wood


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 7:57 am 
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Someone graffitied IKON park.

Sakc the bastards I think it said.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 7:59 am 
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Juanita Jones wrote:
Someone graffitied IKON park.

Sakc the bastards I think it said.



it wasn't me. i was doing washing at home. all by myself.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 8:01 am 
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Juanita Jones wrote:
Someone graffitied IKON park.

Sakc the bastards I think it said.
If they spelled it SAKC the suspect pool will be much smaller :grin:


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 8:02 am 
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missnaut wrote:
Juanita Jones wrote:
Someone graffitied IKON park.

Sakc the bastards I think it said.
If they spelled it SAKC the suspect pool will be much smaller :grin:


I tell a lie it was instructional graffiti
TDK yes or No
Sakc the Board
Sakc Lloyd
Sakc Austin
Keep Voss


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 8:22 am 
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This is what happens when you dismantle the Member’s forum I guess? :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 8:32 am 
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“Sack Llyod”

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 9:14 am 
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"Keep Voss"

One of the comments wrote:
"That's Voss's handwriting"

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 9:16 am 
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Juanita Jones wrote:
missnaut wrote:
Juanita Jones wrote:
Someone graffitied IKON park.

Sakc the bastards I think it said.
If they spelled it SAKC the suspect pool will be much smaller :grin:


I tell a lie it was instructional graffiti
TDK yes or No
Sakc the Board
Sakc Lloyd
Sakc Austin
Keep Voss
How did Voss make it back to Melbourne in time to do it though?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 9:18 am 
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CK95 wrote:
Juanita Jones wrote:
missnaut wrote:
Juanita Jones wrote:
Someone graffitied IKON park.

Sakc the bastards I think it said.
If they spelled it SAKC the suspect pool will be much smaller :grin:


I tell a lie it was instructional graffiti
TDK yes or No
Sakc the Board
Sakc Lloyd
Sakc Austin
Keep Voss
How did Voss make it back to Melbourne in time to do it though?

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:lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 9:52 am 
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I’m a high school English teacher. One of my classes, a Year 11 Essential English class, is generally comprised of kids who are doing TAFE one day a week while in school, are not particularly academic, have a lot of absences or are just bone lazy. Their ceiling as far as ability is fairly low, but I still have high expectations for effort regardless. The majority of students are quiet, respectful and follow the rules.

However, in the class there were a couple of extremely toxic students - they completed no work, flaunted every rule, argued every instruction and were generally shitheads. Eventually, their continual defiance bled into the entire class where one lesson ended up in a shouting match between me and the entire class - I had lost composure but I guess on paper you’d say that I “lost” the class.

See a similarity?

I went away and reflected. What else could I do when I’d tried everything to break these toxic students without success, and now it had infected the entire cohort?

I analysed the list: I instituted a solid seating plan which separated these students far from each other and sandwiched inbetween students they wouldn’t even spit on let alone engage with. I banned devices and went back to pen and paper old school lessons. Anyone who tried to sit elsewhere or argue any instruction received an immediate lunchtime detention.

I applied the blowtorch.

The result? The 90% of the class who had previously been compliant, recognised that they had [REDACTED] up, and that I was not going to tolerate any of it ever again; I was in control, and they were reminded of that. They complied.

The two toxic students? They bitched and moaned and struggled and eventually asked to be changed into another class, which we gladly obliged.

Now? No seating plan required, class is compliant and respectful again and working to their ability again.

See a similarity?

Let the leader apply the blowtorch, let the poison run its course consequently and chop out any remnants that remain afterwards.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:13 am 
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Scotty12000 wrote:
I’m a high school English teacher. One of my classes, a Year 11 Essential English class, is generally comprised of kids who are doing TAFE one day a week while in school, are not particularly academic, have a lot of absences or are just bone lazy. Their ceiling as far as ability is fairly low, but I still have high expectations for effort regardless. The majority of students are quiet, respectful and follow the rules.

However, in the class there were a couple of extremely toxic students - they completed no work, flaunted every rule, argued every instruction and were generally shitheads. Eventually, their continual defiance bled into the entire class where one lesson ended up in a shouting match between me and the entire class - I had lost composure but I guess on paper you’d say that I “lost” the class.

See a similarity?

I went away and reflected. What else could I do when I’d tried everything to break these toxic students without success, and now it had infected the entire cohort?

I analysed the list: I instituted a solid seating plan which separated these students far from each other and sandwiched inbetween students they wouldn’t even spit on let alone engage with. I banned devices and went back to pen and paper old school lessons. Anyone who tried to sit elsewhere or argue any instruction received an immediate lunchtime detention.

I applied the blowtorch.

The result? The 90% of the class who had previously been compliant, recognised that they had [REDACTED] up, and that I was not going to tolerate any of it ever again; I was in control, and they were reminded of that. They complied.

The two toxic students? They bitched and moaned and struggled and eventually asked to be changed into another class, which we gladly obliged.

Now? No seating plan required, class is compliant and respectful again and working to their ability again.

See a similarity?

Let the leader apply the blowtorch, let the poison run its course consequently and chop out any remnants that remain afterwards.


Blowtorch should have been applied long ago. He’s allowed this mentality to fester for far too long


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:27 am 
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jake_h03 wrote:
Scotty12000 wrote:
I’m a high school English teacher. One of my classes, a Year 11 Essential English class, is generally comprised of kids who are doing TAFE one day a week while in school, are not particularly academic, have a lot of absences or are just bone lazy. Their ceiling as far as ability is fairly low, but I still have high expectations for effort regardless. The majority of students are quiet, respectful and follow the rules.

However, in the class there were a couple of extremely toxic students - they completed no work, flaunted every rule, argued every instruction and were generally shitheads. Eventually, their continual defiance bled into the entire class where one lesson ended up in a shouting match between me and the entire class - I had lost composure but I guess on paper you’d say that I “lost” the class.

See a similarity?

I went away and reflected. What else could I do when I’d tried everything to break these toxic students without success, and now it had infected the entire cohort?

I analysed the list: I instituted a solid seating plan which separated these students far from each other and sandwiched inbetween students they wouldn’t even spit on let alone engage with. I banned devices and went back to pen and paper old school lessons. Anyone who tried to sit elsewhere or argue any instruction received an immediate lunchtime detention.

I applied the blowtorch.

The result? The 90% of the class who had previously been compliant, recognised that they had [REDACTED] up, and that I was not going to tolerate any of it ever again; I was in control, and they were reminded of that. They complied.

The two toxic students? They bitched and moaned and struggled and eventually asked to be changed into another class, which we gladly obliged.

Now? No seating plan required, class is compliant and respectful again and working to their ability again.

See a similarity?

Let the leader apply the blowtorch, let the poison run its course consequently and chop out any remnants that remain afterwards.


Blowtorch should have been applied long ago. He’s allowed this mentality to fester for far too long


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Shoulda woulda coulda but here we are. We don’t have time to give this group of conditional softcocks another 2 year benefit of the doubt . We need to stay the course and address the constant - the players. Who are the toxic students infecting the whole class?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:53 am 
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it's not coaching and it's not players. it's both. coaching hasn't won hearts and minds, hasn't instilled a sustainable gameplan or evolved from the original gameplan - even tho the game has lept ahead in its evolution (htb rule etc), players haven't bought in. that's all coaching.

and clearly the players aren't up to it. half efforts, shirking it, piss poor skills from piss poor prepartion and piss poor preparedness to do the 1% that every successful team that has ever played has done. piss weak from the players who are paid more than enough to get dirty.

let's not stop there.

why the hell docherty keeps being selected is everything that's wrong here. we've now lost 9 of the last 10 docherty has played. every week, he gets shrugged off, gets run past, turns it over bcos he's too slow, lacks composure and his skillset is no longer afl standard. what message is that sending to the list? favourites receiving preferential treatment is a bad precedent for Voss to be residing over. that's on coaching too. setting standards etc.

too many players getting free games from a talent pool that is very shallow and one of the most unbalanced in the league - recruiting and development staff need to be shown the door for this.

the board for prioritising money and profit over footballing decisions. for their stubbornness and ego that's carried over from the elliot days of cheating and scandal.


no one should survive this. the people who play a role in selecting docherty, gone. coaching, all lines gone. and recruiting gone. board replaced. wright given full ownership over all football departments to slice and dice where he wants.


the reality won't be that, bcos that will cost too much money and too much cap/ soft cap to absorb all that mediocrity and let it go. the board won't lay down without a fight. lord of the flies will ensue. all of that will set the cub back more years than needs to be, bcos we are not going to come together and figure this out and fall on swords and take the honourable approach.

we are going point fingers, create storms and drag this into the gutter. that's the real carlton way. it's the way it's always been.


i'm tired boss.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:00 pm 
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Voss wrote:
"What we won't do ... is pass blame on anyone."

I think it's time you should...

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:21 pm 
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Hornet wrote:
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"What we won't do ... is pass blame on anyone."

I think it's time you should...


Exactly. Try some @#$%&! accountability on for size. But that would damage their precious mental health wouldn’t it


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