I've always said.....when Chris Scott got the coaching job at Geelong in 2011....

You could've thrown anyone in that position......and they were always going to win a premiership...

Thats how good that playing group was !!!

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The answer is simple.

Two words.........................'One Agenda!'

Sadly we will never see that again. Carlton Football club has barely had one Agenda since about 1995 and getting everyone on the same page is simply not possible from here on in.

Being Capt Obvious, blind Freddy can see the entire World is fast devolving into an Agenda's driven society, on every level. I have 8 staff directly under me. Every phone call I get from them tends to be some subtle form of manipulation or an attempt to plant a seed for their own ends. After so many years with them I can read their Agenda's like a cheap novel.

Covid, Politics, Media, Social Media, Big Tech, Lift, Right. etc, etc, etc. It is all about 'I'm right you are wrong and how can I make money by taking a certain side or stance.'

Carlton FC is simply a microcosm of the World over the past 30 years. Having a personal Agenda and being selfish is the norm at most Football clubs. The Agenda's and cliques go on infinitum and I have seen them up close and personal for 11 years. 5 years since I finished, there are still plenty going on and things are obviously broken.

Carlton FC is so far away from having a single glorified Agenda, that hoping for a flag is like hoping to win Tatts.

For every CFC Board Member, there are 10 of their friends trying to influence them with their own selfish Agenda's. Some of the friends have real clout so the Agenda's get traction.

The World is pretty well @#$%^& so why should we expect CFC to be any better. People in Power, with Money are the pinnacle of the Agenda driven society.

I'm wondering if this is merely Lockdown 6.0 talking..............but tell me I am wrong and why.

Regards Cazzesman

I think it is a bit of lockdown talking, as by this logic wouldn’t it be impossible for any club to be aligned?

I think in any given year there are probably 3 or 4 that are closest to being aligned and the rest just make up the numbers.

Sustained success is based on the consistency of alignments, avoidance of scandal and a very large slice of good old fashion luck i.e. fixturing,
injuries (duration) and suspensions to your top 10 players, refusing to bow to knee jerk reactions when issues arise, media support/love and supporter harmony which is always driven by 'W'.

Regards Cazzesman

It's not about Teague its about the boards incompetence.

Mostly Walshy
I feel things are starting to change a bit

No matter which board is there, Teague won’t be coaching

And that’s only the beginning...

As my 22 year old son said to me today that he can’t believe we lost to gc , what was the point of sacking Bolton( now with Teague going) , and are we ever going to come good ??

Answer , one day but who knows when that one day is

Dees been waiting since the 1950’s
Swans had to wait 72 years
Dogs had to wait 70 years
We are now in the top 4 for premiership droughts ...

It's not about Teague its about the boards incompetence.

Betts did cost us something. Further development of a younger player eg Honey. Betts was cooked 3 years ago.

Of course the problem is now. Like it was yesterday, day before that, last 10 years etc. No doubt our inability to win games of football has had a huge impact on the club and it’s culture.

Also, not disagreeing with your assessment of Teague. My point is the club has bigger issues than Teague.

I've morphed into Daryl Kerrigan after reading that....

If we ever do due diligence when appointing a new coach maybe we will eventually get it right.

That's what's got us into this mess.
That and taking a white knight approach.

I'm not saying Clarkson isn't a white knight.
But let's at least make sure we grill him to be sure he is,.

A-ha! I never realised who his dad is! I'm so naive!
The proof for me is that all the remaining ex-players and commentators in the media who would normally be supporting Teague have turned over the past week, obviously indicating they know.

He was on shaky ground in any event but his last - albeit very small- hope was to at least string together wins against the weaker opponents we've faced in the past few weeks but losing to the Kangaroos and now Gold Coast have put paid to that final slim chance.

Probably smarter to keep clear I would have thought. Who wants to be covered in mush?

But yes, barass’s mail is usually on the money.

The midfield weren't pea hearted against St Kilda were they? Yes we have a personnel issue in midfield but for you to ignore that part of the issue is a coaching problem, and more particularly, a development problem undermines any argument you might want to make.

I have serious questions over their development. Unfortunately, that comes back to the coach. It's up to the coach not enforcing standards and letting passengers take up privileged positions. If it's ok for a senior player to go half-in, then it's ok for a junior. Why play a guy like Murphy when he wasn't showing any form and there were kids banging the door down in the Magoos? Setterfield getting games when he was playing very poorly for weeks in a row.

Then we haven't even touched on the way our team defence was handled. We were rightly lambasted by commentators. Far too loose, not understanding the "stand" rule and the quicker ball movement meaning that a zone defence unless, absolutely well drilled that reacts within split seconds means we were getting belted on the rebound. Sure we butchered the ball at times, but the system being played cannot rely on perfection. Where is the insurance policy if the ball is turned over? There was none.

There are players with talent here. A coach is supposed to get the best out of them. I don't think David has. I'm sure he's a nice guy and he wants the best for the club. He was originally recruited as an assistant and fell into the head coach position mainly through player power, a coach who didn't crack the whip hard enough but very likeable.

We need someone tough but fair. Malthouse was seemingly tough but unfair. We need a coach who will give us a culture shift but who is tactically savvy and/or has assistants who can handle that part of it. How many of our assistants are talked about for being in the mix for roles elsewhere? If they are tactically savvy and have been shot down by a decision by the head coach, then there's another problem there.

Where am I going with this? The problem is multi-faceted. To simply blame the players as being pea hearted is reductionist and fails to consider the nuances and issues that plague this club at the moment.

Man you are going to get bruises on your fingertips soon. You're a posting machine.

Absolutely agree with that !! But that’s Carlton evolving into a professional modern club ,,,can’t see that happening anytime soon !!

Board level it’s all smoke and mirrors , with no transparency

No matter which board is there, Teague won’t be coaching

And that’s only the beginning...

As my 22 year old son said to me today that he can’t believe we lost to gc , what was the point of sacking Bolton( now with Teague going) , and are we ever going to come good ??

Answer , one day but who knows when that one day is

Dees been waiting since the 1950’s
Swans had to wait 72 years
Dogs had to wait 70 years
We are now in the top 4 for premiership droughts ...