Wiggins belongs !!!



I just wish that he could hit a target by foot - but he is not Robinson Crusoe on that one

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Agree Ponk - that mark was sensational.

Generally agree with what others have said - the tackling, Simmo, Waitey and - unfortunately - the right result

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"Whoever said you can't buy happiness forgot about puppies." - Gene Hill

AB in the centre - yes, he lacks a little pace, but he has a cool head in the engine room, and fast hands, and his kicking is improving all the time.

Simmo - continues to surprise me. Very pleased with his progress.

Waite - ditto. Has improved out of site, but must keep practicing his kicking.

Eddie - pure excitement. Love him.

'What the short-sighted people don't understand is that we don't enjoy it, it's just we know better' now that says it all.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Just on Bentick for a second; I think it was Elwood some time ago who pointed out that none of our recruits from the past few years (or very few) have managed 20 possies in a game.

AB has just done that. Since 2000, I can only think of 2 others to do that:

* Andrew Walker in his debut game
* Jon McCormick in his debut game plus perhaps 1-2 others.

Livo, Sporn, Wiggler, Simmo, Fisher, Norman, Russell (yes, very early), Davies... pretty sure none have reached that mark yet?

yes its part of our problem I think - we haven't recruited big possession winners. Part of why I like AB (and Blackers too) is that they appear tpo be big possession winners. Speed, delivery, etc etc, are great but you need a few opf those blokes who just rack up the possies.

and just on thast with the whole Muph Elliss and stuff - who is it that racks up the big possies in the draft (well not in the draft but you know what I mean) - that's the bloke I want (if he's any good ). I want a stat collector!

is it Murph or Jones or Hurn? who?

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

+ve
Improvement in 4 areas of our game that were desperately needed..
tackling, tackling, tackling and tackling.
Can probably add toghness - due to the return of the Wiggler

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Greg Lee

Pagan has never really been the sort of coach that wants his player to rack up the possessions. Lots of possession usually means a lot of indirect back and forth footy. That's why Hawthorn are going so badly even though they have Hodge, Mitchell and Crawford running amuck in the midfield. I'd rather have some kids who can hit a target.

I don't think DB was advocating overpossession, just ballwinning. We don't have enough ballwinners across the ground. If we could improve that, and with a direct game plan, the idea is that we can keep the scores high.

We haven't selected many natural ballwinners over the years.

see Molsey understood so you should hang your head in shame Adain!

Its not about overpossessing but hey Williams, did he overpossess? Ratten? We need to get some genuine ball getters - then the likes of Walker Russell Simmo Betts can run, run like the wind boys! Set us Free.

Born free! as free as the wind blows... as free as the grass grows, cos....

sorry got a bit carried away there.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

I think it is amzing what young kids can do for the team - i know one could say that pagan has planned the introduction of the kids etc and u dont want to throw them in all at once etc... but i really think pagan was slow to give the kids like simmo and bentick a real chance in the centre without being dragged after one mistake etc. while leaving campo and kouta there.

I would love to see hartlett get a chance this week at chb, just to give him a taste for next season - and walker should clearly be in the team instead of chambers! Give the youngsters a REAL go - we have nothing to lose IMO.

Lastly, bentick would have learnt a lot from playing on burgoyne and then francou in the last qtr. Francou was great around the stoppages in the last.

Yeah actually I think they did but that was the sort of game style we played at the time.

But your right, we do need to get some genuine ball getter into the side. I'm hoping that eventually Blackwell will fulfill that role and that Bentick will only get better but Marc from what I've heard seems to be the type who'll go in and get the ball and run with it given the opportunity.

yes but how often ? Is he a 20 possie collector of going in getting it and running or a 30?

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

understand DB - to back you up, from memory AB was close to our leading stat for hard ball gets against Port - at least up until the 3rd qtr.....that adds somewhat to the quality of possession 'meter'

ta LB. any stat in a storm hey Jar Jar

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

How about me?

And that is despite spending about 10 mins on the pine at the start of the second. He was dragged after Byrogyne slotted his third in the first. bentick came back on and got a stat out on the wing as he ran back on.

I think its rough to have him in the Best given the games of Burger and Frank but when the rest of the midfield don't turn up, who are we supposed to nominate?

ps agree with Chambers / Walker. Would have been very interesting to have Walker out there. Remain very disappointed in Chambers.

Carrazzo has had 6 games this year with 20+ possessions.

Of course Headplant, how dare I miss the carrot himself. Pretty sure I wrote up something on site a few weeks ago talking about his 25 possie game against Freo.....

Last 2 games

Bentick 39 possessions 10 contested 20 tackles
Kouta 43 possessions 8 contested 13 tackles
Stevens 32 possessions 2 contested 4 tackles
Campo 49 possessions 2 contested 8 tackles
Simpson 35 possessions 2 contested 13 tackles
Scotland 43 possessions 2 contested 9 tackles
Carrazzo 32 possessions 1 contested 12 tackles

We need some contested ball winners in our team. Murphy and Hurn are capable of that. I hope Blackwell will also be able to.