The really weird bit is Campo thinks he has been very good and would point to his stats....

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Well then I am all in favour of giving him all the stat sheets he wants AS HE GETS KICKED OUT THE DOOR on his way home to fantasy land.

Yeah Campo has been terrible for this club...just shocking. Useless player. Never done a thing. How on earth did he play 250 games? What a dud!!

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My point is to forget about the past. If you say that Campo was overpaid in the past and owes us, then you might have to concede Lappins demands.

Pay players what you think they are worth to the Carlton football Club, 200k is probably what Campo is worth on the open market. I dont think we have to punish him for past excesses of the administration.

We tried that with Matty Allan remmeber and he sooked all year

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Yep, but wasn't it fun watching him run around in Essendon* colours while he did it.

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I was talking about 2003 when he was paid minimum wage and tanked all but one game. probably on Sheedy's instructions

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I also listened to Matty Lappin - obviously a sensible, nice bloke whose been great for our club and understands the situation.

But if we are going to move forward and have success then the bottom line is we have to be ruthless and we are going to lose some friends along the way (inlcuding those 2 dills who said they'll give up their membership).

The Jack Elliott Guaranteed Super Fund has been shut down !

What a shame our senior players are using the media to tell the world how hard done by they are. Could you imagine Voss or Buckley doing the same?

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i think campo has given carlton good value for money over the years.

i should give you a bit of background information about myself.
I like to be referred to as Roger Rabbit, i like to spend my spare time sitting up trees impersonating owls and making chirping sounds every so often.


To think campo. has given good value for the money paid one has to be stark raving mad. For some reason, people think i am too.. chirp!! chirp!!

I disagree with your rating of Lappin's contibution to the club over Campo's.

No doubt Campo is grossly over paid (not neccessarily his fault) but

I've never seen Campo involved in off the field incidents that damage the clubs reputation. Unlike Lappin.

Campo also appears in much more off field promo work for the club.

From what I see on TV, Campo offers more leadership on the ground. No doubt he's no Michael Voss but I've never seen Lappin work his way around to the other players when the chips are down.

No don't get me wrong I hold nothing against Lappin, he's been one of our best over the last few years (not counting this year) but if I had to chose one, I'd take Campo (on 250K max).

Carlton would be mad to give a to-be 30yo 3 years.

Campo and Lappin both 2 x $250K max.

I'll be ropeable if we retain Yze ( who's 28 ) at more than that.

None of those 3 are leaders.

I have the solution we give Campo/Lappin the three years , eg total 650 k ( pick the figure ) Then ......

break that up over three years to 350k first year 300k second year and third year they decide to play for free. With it we recommend personaly liabilty insurance, take it out and hope nothing come of it.

Both players play there 2 years, suffer a terrible career ending injury and get paid out by the insurance company.

This way the greedy duo still there money and we at Carlton are not paying for them. They play two years, cause that all they have to offer, and that is not a cert either, and all the tradionalists can continue to boast about Carlton and Loyalty...

In the end we might have premiums to pay but nothing like the craziness they are asking for at the moment.

Anyone out there in Insurance ?? can it be done ??

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I am not in insurance - but i have a better idea.

Campo goes home to South Australia and we trade Whitnall. He has certain strengths that some clubs are after. We should get a good trade for him.

I believe the phrase that i am looking for is Adios Amigos..

Lappin can stay. I have nothing against Lappin

More on what he said:

``I've never been paid in the top six players there. Coming off All-Australian year last year I kind of think I deserve to be little bit rewarded.
``Hopefully we'll get to that, if not then we'll have to look for another club. I suppose now I'm in the position where I have to leave if I'm going to get a three-year deal.
``It's pretty obvious ... if there's a chance for me to go i suppose, this is it. It's a bit hard for me because I've been a pretty good servant of that club.
``Three years ago I signed a contract when I had the opportunity to leave. I decided to stay and take pay cuts when Ian Collins came in.
``I took a fairly big hit in the pocket then and we kind of hoped I might make it up a bit later on when my next contract came up. This is now and it hasn't quite come back to me the way I would've liked.
``My wife and I are expecting a child. I'm at a stage in my life where I haven't been rewarded as well as some guys have been. It's kind of my turn now to get the right one (deal).
``I'm still hopeful I can remain at Carlton. It's pretty hard ... in six weeks time I could be living in another state.
``Nobody has a clue what's going to happen. We're all in this boat together. Nobody's safe. Fev (Brendan Fevola) did a contract three months ago and you read about it in the paper he's a chance to go as well.
``I played probably 95 per cent of my footy at half-forward which I haven't done for the last two years prior to that.
``I played half-back the year before and got in the All_Australian side.
``Denis (Pagan) shifted me back forward this year and playing half-forward and getting tagged most weeks in the 16th team on the ladder its pretty hard yakka.''

Yeah sounds like he will relish the opportunity to leave...

If he does id still love Skinny.. im not upset he is looking for his best option..
He is a by product of the environement his colleagues put him into with their greed...


I hope he stays.. but not for 3 years...

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What did Pagan do to deserve his 3 year deal? 2nd last, 11th and last is a woeful return. Pagan hasn't contributed a tenth of what skinny has to the club. Why throw money down the drain on a stubborn old stooge who is more interested in his horses?

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He is getting rid of the bad culture...

Thats enough.. he could have pampered their egos..
Though i would have done the same thing..... for half the $$$$

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remember that wizard cup match from this year against the bulldogs where Lappo had kicked 4 goals by the beginning of the 2nd quarter?>

how many times this year has fevola done that?
how many times has fevola made all-australian?

i can understand how he would feel aggrieved money wise... but then he could think that he has been paid more than Jeza, Nicholls and Walls combined. Not comparing apples with apples i know ... but money shouldn't be the only consideration.

Lappo has been a good player for the blues and has never gone in the long form slumps that could match him with campo and whitts.

I still vividly remember campo's game against brisbane this year... amazing to think we paid this guy to play ring ring a rosie with taggers. nothing achieved.

Why are we paying a coach 2 million+ for 3 years to hold up the ladder? I thought we had financial problems.

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We do have financial problems ...

But the bad culture eradication company sound expensive.. but very effective..

So look at it this way.. will sound expensive but will end up being a bargain...Like a house...
If you bought a house 20 years ago.. back then it would have sounded expensive but if you look at what its worth now.. its a bargain!!!

Understand grasshopper????

Hey The Game.. i dont mind you....seriously.....

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