It also sends a message to the incumbents that the members aren't happy, and then hopefully the board will react to that and become more open.

Still undecided about who gets my vote at this stage.Gonna think long and hard before i decide.For a start,i feel very gratefull to Sticks,Valmorbida and Pavlou for putting there hands up when we were in more trouble than the earl settlers and they had more than there share of troubles.But times change and things move on so i am open to other candidates.
But i have got a problem with Lee.And some hard questions...........
Like....now that Sticks,Valmoebia and P{avlou have done the dirty work and put in the hard yards you all of a sudden want to get on board.You were around 3 years ago but didnt have a go...Why now have you become interested.Is it because the other 3 dummies have done the dirty work for you.
This is not a smartarse question,but i would really like to know why the suden interest ?
I listened to him on the radio and have read his mail out.Gotta be honest and say he just sounds like every other namby pamby feelgood spindoctor.Not overly impressed.Gotta get a bit more oooomph before he wins me.
Havent heard from the other 2 so no comment.

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Still undecided about who gets my vote at this stage.Gonna think long and hard before i decide.For a start,i feel very gratefull to Sticks,Valmorbida and Pavlou for putting there hands up when we were in more trouble than the earl settlers and they had more than there share of troubles.But times change and things move on so i am open to other candidates.
But i have got a problem with Lee.And some hard questions...........
Like....now that Sticks,Valmoebia and P{avlou have done the dirty work and put in the hard yards you all of a sudden want to get on board.You were around 3 years ago but didnt have a go...Why now have you become interested.Is it because the other 3 dummies have done the dirty work for you.
This is not a smartarse question,but i would really like to know why the suden interest ?
I listened to him on the radio and have read his mail out.Gotta be honest and say he just sounds like every other namby pamby feelgood spindoctor.Not overly impressed.Gotta get a bit more oooomph before he wins me.
Havent heard from the other 2 so no comment.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Classic Mickstar, all relevant questions; a reasonable approach.

All offers are welcome, come join our club, you're input is invaluable, we'll adopt your 'good ideas', as you help us on our quest to the 17th Premiership.

THE EMPIRE WILL STRIKE BACK!!

I'd vote for him purely on his comments re Saddington.

I don't care what Pagan or Hughes say after the event it was a dumb pick. Last year they picked up Raso at 70 something. There had to be something better that Sadington.

That said we would have been better off not picking anyone.

Mick what hard hard did sticks put in?
He was on Elliots side...

And thats ok if you want to vote for more of the same...
Pavlou Valmorbida have been terrific around the club.. jack in the boxes when it comes to ideas.

PS .. love to know what those two have done around the club apart from shake hands and kiss babies.

But thats ok..Lets keep them.



Dannyboy.. amazing how you can prophesize...

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Don't give up Blue Vain. You make perfect sense in your balanced comments. Some posters here lack basic comprehension skills. Lee should stick to his strengths and commenting on the Saddington trade is asking for trouble. He may already have a coach and recruiter offside before the ballot.

I think it is prudent to have someone from the match committe on the board.

This would enable a more intimate and accurate source of information for the board's consideration when referring to personnel on the field, call it "from the inner sanctum", and for the side of caution, would be independent of the coach's version of the playing team.

It's healthy.

If that make sense to pursue, and assuming we can fit the position on the board, is Stcks the best candidate? If not, who?.

...I don't think Wes Lofts is a contender.

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I think you will find that Lee's interest is not sudden. I think if you actually did your homework you would find that Lee has put in more for this club in the past 3 years, with zero aknowldegment, than a number of the current board. Created and ran the Hero's campaign for one - raising $800,000. How many other board members have come up with ideas like that for the club? He created the Carlton Foundation and resurrented the Hall of Fame. Remember he is just a member like you and I - and he has done this. I think he has paid his dues well and truely and deserves the opportunity to put his creative thinking across all areas of the club.

That's the sort of information we need Speedy.

We need to know of their contributions to the Carlton FC to date, and

Their vision towards the future!

KPI SCORE: LEE

1. Hero's campaign initiator / raised $800,000
2. Carlton Foundation / (I need more info on this)
3. Resurrected Hall of Fame / Renovation & Respect

Progressive score:

Lee 3 KPI's and $800,000




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He's got my vote over the tuna man

Hold your horses Rhys....you must know something I don't.

The score sheet is:

Lee 3 KPI's / $800,000 to LEE
Val (no info submitted to TC)
Pavlou (no info submitted to TC )
Sticks (no info subitted to TC)

You should give the other candidates a chance to submit their contributions before you decide...unless you don't want to, and are fixed on the preference of change to the current board; regardless of score, because....you know something I don't! Don't you? Giddeeup..

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For 20 years we let a drunk tell the members who he wanted on the board and it became a cabal of toadies and yes-men that were the audience watching Nero while Rome burned.

As members we were also culpable for the make-up of the board over that time and we should never allow this to happen again.

In my mind refreshing the board with nominees not necessarily aligned with the President or the rest of the board is the way to go. We need fresh eyes and ears in that room to prevent any further disasters.

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That's the way I see it as well...

Three years is enough time for a board member to prove their worth so unless a paricular member is doing an extraordinary job, then I'm all for electing a new face(s) with fresh ideas.

I found it interesting that no one has posted any comments in relation to what Lee said about pagans re-signing:



I havent heard the interview, so am unsure about what contect he said this. However from just reading this quote, is it fair to say that Greg Lee didn't want Pagan re-signed and as such is not a supporter of Pagan?

Just jostling for position, the louder the bang the bigger the impact.
Lee's giving what some need and want to hear, quite savvy.
From a member voting point view, one must be very careful and not make hasty decisions.
Let's hear Marcus and the others and weight it all up. We have already had a board revolution.
This is now the important process of the evolution of the CFC.
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Tall defenders are hard to pick up and we needed the extra size and experience down back..he isnt that old and it really is only the injury woes that seem to be the negative. His skill level is good and he is a good athlete when fit....for a late pick it was worth the risk....you have to have some balance of age on your list and while I am a great of supporter of recruiting and playing youth you need to have some mid age players with experience to supplement the young blokes....

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I think you might be reading a little too much into this. I believe he was speaking more of the process and the strategy rather than the decision itself. I do not think he has declared himself on Pagan, and probably would not do so given that Pagan has 2 years to run on his contract.