Drafting has been poor for a while now (apologies for the formatting)

Pick number Player Alternative(s)
"2010
Gold Coast draft"
18 Matthew Watson "Isaac Smith (19)
Jack Darling (27)"
34 Patrick McCarthy Luke Parker (40)
42 Luke Mitchell Tom McDonald (53)
67 Andrew McInnes Paul Seedsman (76)
70 Nick Duigan Paul Seedsman (76)
"2011
GWS draft"
22 Josh Bootsma Elliot Yeo (30)
44 Sam Rowe Lachie Neale (58)
62 Dylan Buckley Jarrod Witts (67)
2012
11 Troy Menzel Brodie Grundy (18)
35 Tom Temay Tim Membrey (46)
54 Nick Graham Mark Hutchings (60)
2013
13 Patrick Cripps ü
39 Cameron Giles "Jake Kolodjashnij (41)
Tom Barrass (43)
Ben Brown (47)
James Sicily (56)"
51 Nick Holman James Sicily (56)
2014
19 Blaine Boekhorst "Jayden Laverde (20)
Jack Steele (24)
Touk Miller (29)"
28 Dillon Viojo-Rainbow Touk Miller (29)
60 Clem Smith Dan Butler (67)
2015
1 Jacob Weitering "ü
Clayton Oliver (4)"
10 Harry McKay ü
12 Charlie Curnow ü
23 David Cuningham Josh Dunkley (25)
53 Jack Silvagni Jordan Dawson (56)
2016
6 Sam Petrevski-Seton Jy Simpkin (12)
27 Zac Fisher "Shai Bolton (29)
Tom Stewart (40)"
47 Harrison Macreadie "Darcy Cameron (48)
Jack Graham (53)"
59 Cameron Polson "Luke Ryan (66)
Nick Larkey (73)
Harry Morrison (74)"
61 Tom Williamson "Luke Ryan (66)
Nick Larkey (73)
Harry Morrison (74)"
65 Pat Kerr "Luke Ryan (66)
Nick Larkey (73)
Harry Morrison (74)"
2017
3 Paddy Dow "LDU (4)
Adam Cerra (5)
Aaron Naughton (9)"
10 Lachie O'Brien "Ed Richards (16)
Oscar Allen (21)
Tim Kelly (24)
Liam Ryan (26)
Sam Taylor (28)"
30 Tom De Koning Bayley Fritsch (31)
70 Angus Schumacher Sam Switkowski (73)
78 Jarrod Garlett Last pick in the draft
2018
1 Sam Walsh ü
19 Liam Stocker James Rowbottom (25)
66 Finbar O'Dwyer
70 Ben Silvagni
2019
17 Brodie Kemp "Sam De Koning (19)
Harrison Jones (30)
Chad Warner (39)"
20 Sam Philp "Harrison Jones (30)
Chad Warner (39)"
47 Sam Ramsay Jake Riccardi (51)
"2019
Mid season"
1 Josh Deluca "Will Snelling (7)
Marlion Pickett (13)
John Noble (14)"
2020
37 Corey Durdin
41 Jack Carroll
2021
27 Jesse Motlop
2022
11 Oliver Hollands
30 Lachie Cowan
32 Jaxon Binns
47 Harry Lemmey

Interesting post 33.
No point looking backwards though.
Many clubs missed those players as well as some of ours.

Brodie Kemp before Sam De Koning
Zac Fisher before Shai Bolton

These hurt.

It's not like we are in desperate need of an intercept defender (who can stay on the park) and a pressure forward who consistently kicks/creates goals.

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O say does that star spangled banner yet wave.

Which emphasises the stupidity of topping the lists with overrated players from
Other clubs with long term overpaid contracts in some cases given up draft picks
This is why our depth is crap
There is in an art to picking kids at the draft
And a degree of arrogance that they will develop
What also isn’t mentioned here is
O’Shea
Mullet
Kerridge
Fasolo
Sumner
Etc
Lazy recruiting
No brainer brain fades
I actually believe with Austin our recruiting of kids has improved

Trying to refill 1/4 of the list in one year is how you end up with plugs like Mullet & Fasolo.

Risky business to go that route again - especially given our draft position.

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Always wanted to see this chart.
Legend effort McConville
Says it all.

If half of thoe worked in our favour......

Amazing how half of our list has been filled by the Foreign Legion, but that came at a cost because of the above failure.

What about the fact SOS forced out the weapon of Tuohy to get injury prone Marchbank.

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It is a fine effort 33...but it should have come with a warning. Just seeing the name Tom Temay physically upset me.

The following names may cause Carlton supporters to experience feelings of bewilderment, sadness and anger. If you have been traumatized by list management decisions involving Carlton, please think of your health before reading on.

I read these list management post and often wonder what these threads would look like if you followed GWS and Gold Coast.

We cry about missing player x and y and letting the likes of SPS and Setterfield go.

Imagine being in their shoes when you look at what has come and gone. Supporters on here would be suicidal

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They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

Yeah , its one foot in the grave sorta stuff for sure .

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All my dangerous friends

With apologies to the original poster,I don't see the value in these lists. You could probably take more than 90% of selections in AFL draft history and locate someone who was picked later and turned out better. In just as many cases you could also find someone taken earlier who turned out worse, but in our constant state of self flagellation we're not going to consider that angle, are we?

End of the day, all that counts is how many players we've drafted in the past decade have been great, how many average, and how many crap. The record shows that outside of #1 picks we have rarely got it right, and that's the main reason we've not finished in the top 8 since 2011.

If we had picked up <player missed> instead of <player picked>... there's a good chance they'd be on that list regardless.

It's easy to look back in retrospect and some of the examples I agree with, but... poor mental and physical development has always been a problem.

Why are we physically so much smaller (across the list) than most of the opposition every week? As an example, why isn't Paddy Dow 5 kgs bigger to compliment his inside game strengths? Is that a club decision or player driven?

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“I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.” ― Richard Feynman

It's interesting you say this, and it could be expanded to running capacity as well.

Is it that our list profile is wrong, off the back of a) drafting genetically inferior players, or b) development/performance/culture....

OR

Are the other teams "doing" things we're not doing? Taking things we're not taking......

I say this in all seriousness. Are we so cut down by our past indiscretions that we're not willing to dabble in what the other clubs almost certainly are?

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O say does that star spangled banner yet wave.

And get caught like *? No thanks.

And you know our punishment would be 10x as severe as theirs was.

Agree with most of the names people mentioned for delisting this year, with the exception of Honey. He's too young and has too much upside to give up on him so soon. Rookie him or give him a minimum chips Senior contract.

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Gee wiz good old SOS stuffed some of them up
That’s the reason why where we are at put us back 3 years I reckon

As a supporter you'd have to have your jumper numbers attached with Velcro instead of the old iron on.

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I know it's a long time ago (pre-SOS even) but the worst on that list has to be Bootsma ahead of Yeo. What were the selectors taking?

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'People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.'
Soren Kierkegaard

Or alternatively, what was Bootsma taking?

(The piss?)

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'People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.'
Soren Kierkegaard

I wonder what he's doing now.

This is an interesting, but pointless post.
Hindsight is not part of the deal.
If we all knew what we know now, five years ago.....

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