Thanks Kenny. As soon as your name popped up as "last posted" I knew it wouldn't be about lentils.

And apparently the club did some serious media stuff today. Must be part of Smorgon's big push to sell himself and the club.

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I just want my old club back ... (edit) maybe I have!

This is really just a TRAP....you old trap you

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Greg Lee

ROFL!!! sensational

We just love saying @#$%&! and will use any excuse to say @#$%&!!!!

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Any idea what is was Kenny? Haven't seen or heard anything.

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Mens sana in corpore sano.

Bring back the laurel wreath logo!!!

See the 'United Front for Carlton' thread,

What about the PP??? I knew we'd soft-cock it!!!!

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C'mon Blueboys!

Well the sky hasn't fallen so it is starting to look that way isn't it.

don't pin your hopes on it
it won't happen. the AFL will not buckle on that one

i've never pinned my hopes on it but it is another example of the ineptitude and gutlessness that perpetuates our club. Just another decision in a countless stream of f#^k-ups that has turned our great club into the Fitzroy of the new millennium. It isn't so much about the outcome of the submission but more about the symbolism and self-pride that could be gained from an opportunity to fight and stand up for something that is right and to fight on behalf of our club. Carlton is merely a meek puppet

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C'mon Blueboys!

Legal action kills some companies. To me its not an issue of being a soft cock, its an issue of likely success, cost, timing and management. The management cost of this could be huge, at a time when we are struggling for resources.

Even if you have a legal view of success it doesn't mean you have to push it.

And assume we were successful - 8 months down the track for it would take that long - you can just imagine the AFL appealing, and if they didnt, counter-claims from the other Clubs - all 15 of them.

If we have a foolproof argument we should be finding another way to extract value IMHO.

Looks like the Board has shut up shop and there's no leaks today!

Agree. That whole PP thing was never going to get us anywhere, other than taking up valuable time, effort and resources that could much better be deployed elsewhere.

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Mens sana in corpore sano.

Bring back the laurel wreath logo!!!

It is an injustice - plain and simple. Besides the usual peddling excuse that most respond with that those c@nts at AFL house have made a rule change so that's that, the removal of a priority pick at the start of this year draft from our club is a massive injustice.

To change a set of rules whereby the only result is to manufacture a prejudiced and unfair outcome on our confronts is unlawful and discriminatory AFAIC. Clubs have accessed a PP after dropping down one season between years of finals appearances and we suffer a 4 win and 3 win season, two 16th place finishes back-to-back and we are denied this pick. Maybe my desire for just outcomes is too great and unrealistic but I cant accept this result, ever.

The only reason we aren't standing up for ourselves is that we are such feeble club. A rabble. So sad...

My saddest day as a Carlton supporter. Worse than Black Friday.

Ok, go ahead, shoot me down

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C'mon Blueboys!

No shooting down to be done marci. I agree its an injustic - both instances (the 2002 removal and the 2005/6 change of rule when it comes to us), we deserve both and we need both.

But legal action is a huge financial, legal and management decision. Not every injustice hits the courts. We are not coming from any position of strength and need to pick our challenges.

One thing I am totally p1ssed off with is the constant slagging off of our club champions, admin and coaching staff. This site has become nothing but an anti-carlton everything unless you're talking about Marc Murphy.

FFS, if I want to read this shit, all I have to do is log on to the collingwood site or read the australian.

The PP has us [REDACTED], we all know that, we have no money and no resources to fight the claim. What would you have us do?? Borrow $2m to take it to court - get real. If Fraser wants to chip in to help the club - give the money to fight for the picks - that'll help the club more than dragging it through the shitter.

We need wins that will produce income - that income will see us in a better position to fight for this priority pick one day down the track but right now we're [REDACTED] - this board didn't bring the club to its knees - remember.

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Well it depends on what the legal advice says doesn't it. If it says we'll win and get a pick back (as opposed to $ as damages) then that is exactly what I would have us do. Get the board members who are able to chip into a legal costs fund, secure in the knowledge that they'll get their money back when the AFL ends up paying our costs.

If they're not sure we'll win, or we would only get money as damages, then it's not worth the bad publicity IMO.

Would it even go to "real court" though? Isn't there a Court of Sporting arbitration that reviews sports administrative decisions like this?

Hey you lot...as much as I enjoy cultural diversity on the site some of the moderators ie. ME can understand greek. Swearing in greek in such an offensive manner is NOT ON..cut it out or you will find yourself on a weeks holiday...Katalivess???

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I stole Sheedy's Gatorade...

No it depends on a lot more than what the legal advice says. This is a business decision first and foremost and we have neither the funds or management available to push it.

If you think its easy to source extra funds from Directors, then why don't we already do that? Or do it more than we already do? They're not there to fund the Club they are there to run it (with ideas etc. to assuage Synbad et al). Unless we had a signed-off unlimited legal pledge for costs then how are we to front it?

Sorry about that Chief...........






(you only get one chance in your life to say that! )

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“Every single element of the Club has to be the best in the league, meticulously and methodically, and only by doing this will we be elite and challenge for number 17.”
Greg Lee