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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 2:23 pm 
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Could you please try to pack a few hundred more words into one paragraph?

That one was in danger of being readable.

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 2:27 pm 
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Ah Moshe, pedantic as always. There is no truth to the rumour that you moonlight as the Microsoft paper clip is there?


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 3:20 pm 
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Why on earth are we discussing Ratten. Whatever capability as coach he was is irrelevant to how MM is going. For the record I thought at the time that we should never have appointed such an inexperienced coach with such inexperienced support staff without any proper process. All we have to do is assess all candidates without fear or favour and pick the one we think is best. We may not get it right, but we are more likely to get it right than if we grab a favourite son who happens to be an assistant, or throw $1m at a retired coach who seems driven as much by bitterness at his former club as he does by commitment to our club. Discussing which was the worse appointment seems utterly irrelevant. I don't think either of them were right, and unless we put a process in place that at least gives us the best chance (but not a guarantee) of a great new coach we will continue to be lost somewhere last century. I think for the record the two really bad recruiting decisions I think ratts was heavily involved in were the Warnock who has been an overpaid underperformer and our strategy left us (with the decision to trade out Josh K rather than the pick we used on Big K) with 4 similar rucks at similar development, and the McLean one which seemed to be all Ratts and we gave up way to much for a battler. I still can't believe that we had picks 11 and 12 in that draft and failed to get a good long term player with either, that was a deep draft and we got very little. With the Hendo trade for Fev that could have been the draft that set us up, alas not


You make excellent points - but the discussion is why we're at this point and I think our recent history has a lot to do with it.

IMO it's no good throwing out a coach after 2 years based on a theory that he came from the enemy therefore he's evil, and that Ratts was Carlton through and through and should be returned.

Being a bit facetious there, but you know what I mean. The CFC is/was a car wreck in slow motion.

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 5:14 pm 
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IMO it's no good throwing out a coach after 2 years based on a theory that he came from the enemy therefore he's evil,


What about the fact we're paying him a million dollars per year, he's in his third season, we're 17th on the ladder, he seems lost for ideas and on match days, the coaching group are performing poorly.
Is that a good enough reason?

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 5:32 pm 
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I am a fan of Malthouse as a coach. The issue I believe is his lack of desire to change his old school ways. His comments stating he won't knock on doors etc only makes a bad situation worse.

He is very much it's his way or the highway and it gets people, influential people, off side. It seems obvious that he and the board are on a different page. They say we are rebuilding, he says his job is to win games and rebuilds are for November. Why else would we keep tagging numerous players each week? That can't continue and shows the lack of flexibility that makes it hard for people to work with him. It's why he has to surround himself with old friends.

As he did at Collingwood if he doesn't get his way he spits the dummy. It is not a good look, especially for a club in crisis.

It is for these reasons that IMO he needs to go and he isn't the only one. If this club is to truly rebuild our whole football department needs a huge overhaul and it needs to start now. Why would we wait?

Unfortunately for Mick he is just another person that is burnt by the poor culture of our club.

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 5:48 pm 
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I continue to hope that his public persona is very different to his private one.


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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 4:33 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
The Duke wrote:
IMO it's no good throwing out a coach after 2 years based on a theory that he came from the enemy therefore he's evil,


What about the fact we're paying him a million dollars per year, he's in his third season, we're 17th on the ladder, he seems lost for ideas and on match days, the coaching group are performing poorly.
Is that a good enough reason?


For some its obviously not a good enough reason!!


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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 5:57 pm 
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No way he will survive. Gone. Hopefully very very soon.


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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 5:58 pm 
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way beyond embarrassing.

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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 5:58 pm 
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goodbye mick
take your bunch of hacks with you
slam the door if you like.
dya need directions back to ed's?
you ruined us completely.
I hated you before,
but I truly loathe you now.

cheers.

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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 6:02 pm 
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bluegirl72 wrote:
goodbye mick
goodbye jones.


And Buttifant Thomas Rowe Ellard and All the assistant coaches and the selectors too.

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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 6:04 pm 
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Gee I hope he steps down

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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 6:05 pm 
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He will retire I feel.


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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 6:16 pm 
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bluegirl72 wrote:
goodbye mick
take your bunch of hacks with you
slam the door if you like.
dya need directions back to ed's?
you ruined us completely.
I hated you before,
but I truly loathe you now.

cheers.

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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 6:16 pm 
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I loathe the guy so much i want him to stick out the season and be totally humiliated.


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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 6:25 pm 
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mmm.
who will actually show up for GWS?
I'd be in danger of supporting them instead of us.

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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 6:27 pm 
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club29 wrote:
I loathe the guy so much i want him to stick out the season and be totally humiliated.


But that happened to Pagan, year after year.

Go. Now. End the crap.


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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 6:28 pm 
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verbs wrote:
club29 wrote:
I loathe the guy so much i want him to stick out the season and be totally humiliated.


But that happened to Pagan, year after year.

Go. Now. End the crap.



That too.


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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 6:31 pm 
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yeah, hopefully he quits monday. it's plausible.


what were the crowd chanting as the game was winding down with around 3 mins left? sounded like they were chanting anti malthouse sentiments??

he has to quit. has to.


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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 6:42 pm 
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If the board don't get rid of this stubborn, selfish, crusty old knob end after a loss like this then they're either soft and incompetent or unwilling to part with an amount of money that is virtually, to them, pocket change.

Or perhaps the group of hairdressing addicts we call a team deserve this coach.

Personally I was more emotional about the massive shit I had this afternoon than the result of the game.

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