Harmes i agree... but he cant take marks.. especially pack marks.Remember Lynch throwing himself at the ball ????
Kouta wouldnt do that in case he got muddy...

Wed be putting him there to hide him.
But its his only position.
He kills our midfield when we dont have the ball.. especially when you have Campo in there too...

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chuma, it's nice to know for a fact that Kouta's leading our b&f. They take bets on these things, so if you've got any inside info on this fact, let us know and we can all make a killing.

Look, I just don't get this whole 'I'm a better supporter than you' crap that some people go on with just because they never criticise paid servants of our club.

If your idea of support means complete and unconditional rose-tinted support of every player who's representing our club, fine. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with that, and you're hardly on your own there.

I remember when our most famous fan, good old Barb, told Parko on the footy show that she was willing to switch her support to Hawthorn when Parko left the blues to join the Hawks coaching panel.

She's an extreme example obviously, but a lot of supporters hero-worship the players to the extent that they'll never hear a bad word said about them. Again, that's fine.

But to think that others are a disgrace, blah blah blah just because they choose to exercise their critical facilties when they support their club is a pretty emotionally immature way to go about things.

yeah so there (actually needed a poking tongue out emoticon)

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

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hey Deano are doing impersonations now? Or is Jar Jar doing them? Am I still me? Or am I Synbad ? is Marc the saviour? or the devil in a navy blue dress?

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Kouta has been unaccountable his whole career, same as Hird, same as McCleod. Supporters are looking for a scapegoat and for some reason are blaming the captain.
Here is the real reason why we are crap, the following players would not be on any other clubs list:
Prenda, Wiggins, Bowyer, Livingston, Longmuir, Sporn, Davies, Johnson, Norman, Clarke, Chambers, Deluca, McGrath and Morrell.

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Synbad you are way off the mark with this one! Get off your soapbox & try offering us an original well considered thought about Kouta & how he can be best used next season.

To state that, "Kouta wouldnt do that in case he got muddy... " shows the depth of your thinking & the respect you actually have for our club. Whilst you are undeniably passionate perhaps think before you start typing.

We need change at the club. We need change very soon. We need to ensure that the change we achieve is lasting and provides the best long term outcome for us.

However, to suggest that effective change can be achieved by tearing down one of the icons of our club is ludicrous. We can change and succeed without destroying all that was once great for our club.

If we indiscriminately throw out everything associated with the past of this club without considering the impact of doing so then we will never get it right.

We need to ensure that the young players understand the history, the passion, the success and the greats that have gone before them. We can't set the standard that when things go bad, indeed go very bad, we ditch everyone that has served us well and start again with a team of entirely fresh faced, eager young kids who by their very nature will not be able to withstand the rigours of AFL footy for a full season.

I am not suggesting that our leaders haven't failed to lead. I am suggesting that it is inappropriate to simply throw out all and sundry because of the predicament that we are in.

Negotiate hard, draw a line in the sand about what is acceptable and the type of environment we want to create, but don't turn on our own & particularly one who has, over the full spectrum of his career served us so well.

Let the club decide who has to go & then get rid of them. Do it with grace and style and the club will move forward. Do it vindictively and foster an environment where supporters are turning on our own and we will be no better than Richmond.

You clearly have an influence on this site & heaps to offer to all of us. I enjoy much of what you write, however, perhaps remember that attacking one of the greats of our club reflects more on you than on Kouta.

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Now don't muddy the waters by bringing logic in to this Camel.

While Kouta's playing future is debatable calling him a parasite is a disgrace.

...I hope he does retire at the end of the year so that he won't be available for some ungrateful supporters to kick around anymore.

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Its been what, 4 years now? Its becoming clearer every moment that the difference between us and Richmond supporters is about 16 years without success.

Let's hope we become successful before that happens

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Excellent summation.

Once he's relieved of the captaincy (and I'm sure relieved is the right term), and we have a bit more fiery young talent on the list, and less passengers, then Kouta will be able to be released a bit to play his natural game. Until then, he'll struggle.
Let him run out his contract, and play as a player, not as captain, and give him the option of retiring at a high point, not a low one. He deserves that, at least.

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I think he tries, I think that is what is sad. He and Campo cannot be in the ame midfield with Stevo and scotland. So drop scotland (did that), so trade stevo - no thanks. So I think Kouta should be played FP with occasional runs on the ball and Campo - well i think he is past it with this team.

Kouta has been a greta player and i do not beleive he has been unaccountable his entire career. Nowadays he just cannot run fast, there is nothing inthose legs but a very workmanlike trudging. Not his fault - those knees were done carrying this friggin club while a shite admin wouldn't rebuild, but knees gone they are, so can we just help him bow out gracefully and not stick him in the middle where his liability sticks out like hen's teeth?

is that bagging him?

can truth be bagging someone?

He tries

he was a champion

but injury age etc have reduced him. With the ball he is great but once they get the ball his man is free as a bird, with campos and Stervo's I might add though at least Stevo these past couple of weeks has been in his man's vacinity. It kills us.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

He could very well know for a fact, they aren't the best kept secrets and that's why they don't take bets on these things.

Kouta has looked very dis-interested in most games this year. When his younger teammates are attending to chase he just stands there. He has really disappointed me as a leader of the club. You could tell he is half hearted, it is extremely obvious. Forget about sentiment everyone, talk about the now. You know I am right.

Any more comments on Kouta after another great game today for the Navy Blue?

He was great today!

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If you are wise you'll listen to me

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Congratulations CK95

Have you seen the B&F leaderboard on the website you own?

Now let's not bring any logic or reason into this lynching...