[quote="Blue Vain"]Collo was an administrator Buzz but he was the man for the time.
He just didnt recognise or acknowledge his limitations.

But I cant believe he sold us out.
Collo put more time and effort in Carlton over the past 3 years than any of us would in our lifetime.
I can criticise some of his actions but his

Absolutely agreed.

M

twice BV twice in one day!

Oh the humour of the Gods!

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

@#$%&! off ya groupie.

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Sure he did his work and that is granted, but under-writing prime real-estate in inner-city Carlton doesn't make sense really, it's not like we're in Waverly you know - two minutes to the city is expensive real-estate in any corner of the world, expect Collos.

Legend Stand Apartments?



(subject to council approval of course)

Grandstands are like boats Buzz, they're only valuable if someone needs them.
Otherwise they cost you a shitload to maintain for no return.

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I don't know if our board is ready for that Tyrant.....they might go into cardiac arrest!!!!!

Sorry, as someone pointed out different article - mixing my aritcles. Too much going on today!!!

B&C. I'm saying that essentially Pagan did what had to be done regardless of what the board wanted. Things are starting to come right and the Smorgon wants the board to get the credit for it. This talk that the board should have told Pagan to blood youth two years ago tells me two things. One, the board were clueless about the prospects and development of late picks Pagan had to work with two years ago. Two, they are giving the impression that Pagan wouldn't have turned to youth as part of his rebuilding plan were it not for their direction.

If you doubt this, check out the usual feeding frenzy on BigFooty in relation to this article. It has become a Carlton/Collins/Pagan kickfest because of this one Smorgon article. Whether you believe that there is nothing wrong with the article or not, it looks certain that the perception is a negative one from the greater football community.

But his job isn't to say the things that will keep bigfooty calm.

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#DonTheStash

What would that be?

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you know what i think is wrong all this ranting and raving about every little aspect of this club, what was said, what has been done, whats doing......... Is like some have nothing better to do than scrutinise this leath to every little inch.

Its people like Synbad who are HELPING the club to be recognised a a B grade club YOU BITCHING MAKES ME SICK.

DO US A FAVOUR AND SHUT THE HELL UP.

GIVE US SOME TIME AND THE CLUB BEFORE YOU START BRAIN WASH US WITH YOUR OPINION THAT NOT ALL OF US SHARE

HE HAS BEEN AT THE HELM FOR 2 MINUTES AND YOU ARE ALEADY BITCHING

SHUT THE HELL UP

Yeh that served us well in the past

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"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch

ouch!

Get over it.

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Mate, there's a big difference between saying "We have ordered Pagan to stick to a youth policy" and "The club has decided to stick to a youth policy", it's called finger-pointing. It's a basic leadership quality to not blame your own employees, you can either blame yourself or talk about group responsibility, you don't blame others.

Sinbagger et al, seriously, I'm not trying to be a smartie here.

But where in the above is he finger pointing & blaming Pagan?

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Tell us something we dont know...this article doesnt do much for the club and its relationship with Denis Pagan IMHO ...seems Pagan is the fall guy for Smorgan and I wouldnt mind betting Pagan doesnt see out his contract ...considering the progress we are now making I dont think this article was called for ....calling for wins as the key to future success seems to exempt Smorgan from blame and place all pressure on Pagan...

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"When you have the attitude of a champion, you see adversity as your
training partner."
- Conor Gillen

I want them to stop rebuiding and start winning. Five years of %$% is long enough. I want to inflict pain not bloody live on it!

Big Jack? Is that you?

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If you think the above is a pat on the back to Denis then we can agree to differ. The board should either publicly support Denis or get rid of him, anything else is divisive.