And apparently Campo's not happy at Essendon* and has been offered more money by Ian Collins to come back to us. He is suspected to be doing this to counter the ticket being put together by John Elliot to spill the board for his return (and also because Campo wants to return to the club he loves and to play some hard, inside footy). If elected jack is planning to bring Grant Thomas over from St Kilda as coach and try and nab Darren Millburn off Geelong in the PSD.

Also there are rumours that Simon Beaumont, Justin Murphy and Glen Manton are looking to make comebacks next years at Carlton. Jack's been speaking to Dave Alison and is confident that "wink" "wink" there's a way that we might be able to make it happen, say no more!!! Although still injured, Alison is supposedly offering to throw Matthew Allen in as part of the deal (as long as new chairs can be put into the medical rooms where he is likely to spend most of his time). Both candidates reckon we should definately take the CBF money from the AFL!!

Overall though the board is expected to announce soon that we will be playing for draft picks this season as this is "the way of the future"!!!

How many pages do you reckon this would get on the boards!!!

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1) Kouta's pay this year is part of a long-term back-ended contract, whilst he reportedly earns 7 figures this year its the price over 5 years that is relevant;
2) Its easy for everyone sitting at a keyboard to say how Kouta should take cuts etc to help the club out, lets not forget that he is in the twilight of the only career he has known and is 33 with a family. Try imagining yourself in that position and ask whether you would give away double-digit percentages of your salary;
3) The contract is signed, so what does Collo gain by continually referring to it? We get enough bad-press about our financials as it is. I would prefer the Pres to be talking up our long-term prospects, or the plans he has to right the ship - something to actual get supporters excited about the club and keen to sign memberships.

I just saw Dennis Pagan down at the yearling sales looking for a few more horses to add to the stables....thats gotta add a couple more.

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

If I was Kouta, I would be getting jack of it being brought up by the president all the time.

It is time Collins gave it a rest, let it run its course and if Kouta plays on and can add some value, lets see his loyalty in a new BASE contract situation.

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I wonder how many people are still pissed off about the Hands/Francis fiasco of the mid-50s...

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Well Gerry you should read the whole story not just part of it

What I said was that some of the footballers running around today should donate their match payments to Kouta as if it wasn't for Kouta they would not be playing.

To me I did give two shits how much he gets paid but I know one thing for sure no one- thats right no one in the AFL in the last 20 or so years has had an effect on the game that Kouta has . He has changed the game and the way coaches look at it and recruiters look at it.

And as I also stated that since we are now seeing record crowds and massive television deals it could be argued that the public prefer this athletic style of player as against the Mick Martyns of the 80 ,s .

It could be argued that fans and particually women are flocking to games and subscribing to Foxtel to look at all these Kouta clones that are running around the park.

So if that is the case the AFL and CArlton should pay him what he wants because as Allison said they have made more money off him than he has off them.

Now if you cant see that through your blind faith that everything old at Carlton is bad then you are a bigger moran than I thought.

Kouta and Alison didnt high light this in the press . That miserable prick Collins did .

So once again the man in charge of our club brings bad publicity to it.

So the sooner we get Greg ( Synbad) Lee in charge the better

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perhaps the reason Collo did was because kouta did @#$%&! all in that practise game you're all whinging about and he is the captain and on the biggest bucks of all.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Danny his current form has nothing to do with what he is getting paid now. His contract should have run out last year and a new one on a lower rate should have been negotiated . But thats not his fault we choose to pay him this way . andI am 100 % sure if any of us were getting overpaid for what we were doing we wouldn't hand it back and neither would Collo.

so Collo should stick to finding out how to get grass growing and juggling figures to keep Andy D happy. Not whinging in the public about a contract he agreed to. Its been 4 years he could have been traded at anytime

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Note to self - if we want to recruit more injury prone hacks please appoint Sydney Blue as Recruitment Manager.

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No you could just ask Wayne if you like - Does the names Chamber- longmuir and Saddington ring a bell

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Thats what I meant - we need your genius.

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do you understand why it was renegotiated? Do you think Collo went hey Kouta lets extend your contract cos we're all great blokes here>

Perhaps it was extended because if it had have remained in its present form we would have been over the salary cap again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh and perhaps some of you would not take a cut, perhaps Collo wouldn't 9we'll never know) but i am actually sure that i would - not just if playing for carlton, but in fcat in any team situation if I was a) being paid substantially more the my fellow workers and b) to be successful the place i worked needed me to do it and c) I could not perform at that level.

And sorry he is not being paid fort what was, he is being paid because when negotiating his contract it was put to carlton pay this or we go elsewhere ( if memory serves me it was sydney)

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

As usual DB, you are completely right. It was all to do with the cap at the time - who can forget the infamous Kernahan commentary as to how close we were to the cap despite being on the bottom for 2 years +.

On the Collo issue, I have no problem with him listing the contract in the Annual Report as a key issue. Regardless of what Allison says there's no way we're getting value for the contract. The run-off of the final pre-Collins admin issues is good news for the Blues, as was the ATO issue and the Whitehead issues. There's bits of good news around, its just hidden by darkness. However, as a member of the Club, I would expect my Annual Report - a report to the members - to discuss these issues.

What I do have a problem with was Collin's response to the questioning in the press conference. I am sick of people running down the Club in press conferences, and he should have said something about 'Yes, we're pleased the long-term contracts of the pasr are coming to an end' or 'Id prefer to talk about our younger players' rather than feed any more negative press.

Well then lets just give Kouta away to Essendon* at the end of the year and then lets see if we top 25000 in memebership for 2007.

You guys just are not getting it - You cant keep throughing you champions on the scrap heap each year.

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even if they're not getting us anywhere?

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There's so much I could say...

How far is Buckley- Voss- Hird- Harvey - Everitt- Grant- Darcy- Rocca- taking their clubs

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If we were Carlton circa 1996/97 we would be recruiting Kouta from Essendon* if he was available at 34 years of age with dodgy knees, that is the point.

If you are referring to Camporeale as one of the champions we have been throwing on the scrapheap - then I think you have played too much Rugby League.

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champions retire all the time.

Once upon a time they retired at St Kilda

if now they retire at Essendon* well sorry i for one think that is a grand thing!

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to a flag?

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There's so much I could say...

It took the club 233 games to through him on the scrap heap

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