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Should Barry Mitchell take over at the mid-season break?
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Author:  budzy [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 4:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Should Barry Mitchell take over at the mid-season break?
Well should he?
Author:  ballistic blues [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 4:50 pm ]
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what for
Author:  Orangewhip [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 4:59 pm ]
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Hey Budzy.

Should you?

Yes or No?



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Author:  jim [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:02 pm ]
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ballistic blues wrote:
what for
You can keep putting up with the same uncommitted crap if you want.
Author:  ballistic blues [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:06 pm ]
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jim wrote:
ballistic blues wrote:
what for
You can keep putting up with the same uncommitted crap if you want.


come on dude can you honestly say he has the cattle to work with...... NO

next year you will see a different team run out week with the likes of Kennedy, Bower, Harts & Russel to replace Sporn, Prenda, Wiggo and Teague
Author:  jim [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:15 pm ]
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ballistic blues wrote:
jim wrote:
ballistic blues wrote:
what for
You can keep putting up with the same uncommitted crap if you want.


come on dude can you honestly say he has the cattle to work with...... NO

next year you will see a different team run out week with the likes of Kennedy, Bower, Harts & Russel to replace Sporn, Prenda, Wiggo and Teague
They run out, Pagan coaching, they'll all play with little committment and we get flogged. Surely after 4 years you've worked that out. I'd start to wonder if you haven't. The list's alot better than what you think. By now there should be progress and at least see some passion and committment. With any cattle you expect some improvement and progress. We don't get it becasue we're not committed enough, producing stuff-all effort out there. That's the biggest key. If you think we've progressed you'd be kidding yourself. You might be surprised how well the team could play when they have a go. Don't give me the cattle crap. Not a "jet engine" list but not a "plough horse" list either.
Author:  ballistic blues [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:18 pm ]
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jim wrote:
ballistic blues wrote:
jim wrote:
ballistic blues wrote:
what for
You can keep putting up with the same uncommitted crap if you want.


come on dude can you honestly say he has the cattle to work with...... NO

next year you will see a different team run out week with the likes of Kennedy, Bower, Harts & Russel to replace Sporn, Prenda, Wiggo and Teague
They run out, Pagan coaching, they'll all play with little committment and we get flogged. Surely after 4 years you've worked that out. I'd start to wonder if you haven't. The lists alot better than what you think. By now there should be progress and at least see some passion and committment. With any cattle you expect some improvement and progress. We don't get it becasue we're not committed enough, producing stuff-all effort out there. That's the biggest key. If you think we've progressed you'd be kidding yourself. You might be surprised how well the team could play when they have a go. Don't give me the cattle crap. Not a "jet engine" list but not a "plough horse" list either.


bulldust.........the list will be better when we delist Prenda, Sporn, Davies, Chambers, Longmuir, Banno, Wiggins.

We have some brilliant kids coming through and a good mix of senior players, we still need more.
Author:  Navy Blue Horse [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:20 pm ]
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ballistic blues wrote:
jim wrote:
ballistic blues wrote:
jim wrote:
ballistic blues wrote:
what for
You can keep putting up with the same uncommitted crap if you want.


come on dude can you honestly say he has the cattle to work with...... NO

next year you will see a different team run out week with the likes of Kennedy, Bower, Harts & Russel to replace Sporn, Prenda, Wiggo and Teague
They run out, Pagan coaching, they'll all play with little committment and we get flogged. Surely after 4 years you've worked that out. I'd start to wonder if you haven't. The lists alot better than what you think. By now there should be progress and at least see some passion and committment. With any cattle you expect some improvement and progress. We don't get it becasue we're not committed enough, producing stuff-all effort out there. That's the biggest key. If you think we've progressed you'd be kidding yourself. You might be surprised how well the team could play when they have a go. Don't give me the cattle crap. Not a "jet engine" list but not a "plough horse" list either.


bulldust.........the list will be better when we delist Prenda, Sporn, Davies, Chambers, Longmuir, Banno, Wiggins.

We have some brilliant kids coming through and a good mix of senior players, we still need more.


What's the good mix of Senior players? Please don't include Stevens & Scotland (a one-legged duck I'm sure, always going in circles)
Author:  ballistic blues [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:25 pm ]
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Stevos groins are shot to bits....... he came back last year for the begining of preseason raining over weight cause he was adviced not to run and rest.
Author:  rhys87 [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:38 pm ]
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I'm not that impressed by Mitchell, if we were to get another coach i wouldn't mind someone like Longmire as he was in chance when Sydney were picking a coach and he has being sitting with one of the best coaches in the AFL for a while.
Author:  ballistic blues [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:41 pm ]
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My god some of you have no idea......... we have had the worst list for the past 3 years. Now we are starting to see some signs of the talent we got coming through but we got no depth. So why blame a coach that has nothing but a hand full to work with. like i said next year we will see the baby blues run out and no longer the likes of Prenda, Sporn, Banno, Chambers, Teague and Longmuir
Author:  Kouta [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:55 pm ]
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jim wrote:
ballistic blues wrote:
what for
You can keep putting up with the same uncommitted crap if you want.

The uncommitted crap should be replaced after the mid-season break.
Author:  Elwood Blues1 [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:11 pm ]
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I would like to see Mitchell as match day coach in a similar setup that Parkin and Brittain had at the end of Parkins reign....I think its wishful thinking that Pagan will resign or we will pay him out so a comprimise needs to be reached where Pagan keeps his dignity and money and we get the development our youngsters need...
Author:  killpies [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:13 pm ]
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ballistic blues wrote:
Stevos groins are shot to bits....... he came back last year for the begining of preseason raining over weight cause he was adviced not to run and rest.


Then rest him or go for surgery now and promote a rookie, he is a liability out there at the moment.
Author:  jim [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:53 pm ]
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ballistic blues wrote:
My god some of you have no idea......... we have had the worst list for the past 3 years. Now we are starting to see some signs of the talent we got coming through but we got no depth. So why blame a coach that has nothing but a hand full to work with. like i said next year we will see the baby blues run out and no longer the likes of Prenda, Sporn, Banno, Chambers, Teague and Longmuir
I think you're the one struggling for an idea. No clue at all. You're a dreamer. You can't seem to work out where the real problem is. Run out who we like next year, if we still have Pagan as coach it will be like shuffling deck-chairs on the Titanic. List-wise, forward-line is great, when they're not injured, midfield is ok when they're not played as defenders, defence needs some work. If the players don't play with any committment doesn't matter who plays, we'll probably lose nearly every game like we did under Walls in 1989 when he lost the players.

To me, change the coach as quickly as possible. Can't believe people voted to keep Pagan on in this poll. They really must get off on losing, or at least really great gluttons for punishment.
Author:  jim [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:59 pm ]
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Elwood Blues1 wrote:
I would like to see Mitchell as match day coach in a similar setup that Parkin and Brittain had at the end of Parkins reign....I think its wishful thinking that Pagan will resign or we will pay him out so a comprimise needs to be reached where Pagan keeps his dignity and money and we get the development our youngsters need...
Hopefully the beating drums, as the H-Sun put it today, saying he'll be elsewhere next year are right. While he's there in any "head coach" form you won't get the best out of the players. Get rid of him full-stop.
Author:  SOS [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 7:04 pm ]
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Uncommitted huh?

Yep, I can see the logic. Let's say I am a 22 to 23 year old player who hasn't set the world on fire. Then I get a chance in the seniors. I could go and try my guts out to show that I am capable at AFL level. Then, maybe someone else would be interested in me, or I could continue playing with the Blues for over $100K a year. But no - I have a stroke of genius :shock: How about playing like a dud? That way, I don't have to play under Pagan, and can play under Mitchell in the VFL. I can even play in a VFL premiership. Sure, it will cost me $2,200 in match payments each week, but what the hell. Over 4 years, this sneaky campaign by a bunch of strugglers might even see Pagan unseated. Oh joy :-D Pity then that I won't get a chance to play under the new coach, because London to a brick the Board will demand that the new coach plays the young recruits. And with the upcoming superdraft, it's almost inevitable that I'll be delisted. But that's when my plan really blossoms. I tell all the recruiting managers that I was tanking because I didn't want the coach. I'm sure that there'll be plenty of clubs willing to take a chance on an apparently dud player from a bottom team who deliberately plays under his best if he feels like it. It worked well with LA, Karl, Cupido and Begley, so it should work for me too.

Now, of the senior boys, I can't see how many of them could be playing all that much better. Fev and Lance are having great years. Barney is in the wars but trying, and the same with Lappin. Scotland is playing well. Kouta is on last legs.

And the youngsters just want to play regardless. They haven't had a major opportunity, and I doubt if they'd tank to change the coach.

Yep, we'd be absolute champions if only they'd change the coach :roll: :roll:
Author:  Kouta [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 7:13 pm ]
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Our midfield is hopeless!

The only decent midfielders we have are a first year player in Murphy and Stevens, Bentick was run off his legs today and looked as slow as buggery. I can't recall how many times Simpson was run down today due to having no awareness of opponents when he had the ball. I can't think of a side Scotland would get a game with after the decision making he showed today.

We also have Prender in at the centre bounce, they had C.Cornes.

Do we even have a backline? :?

The deckchairs are being reshuffled because we're sinking under the weight of too many passengers. Blackwell has to come in next week and Houlihan needs to go back to his Salon to get a manicure because he isn't getting the ball. :evil:
Author:  ballistic blues [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 7:44 pm ]
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jim wrote:
ballistic blues wrote:
My god some of you have no idea......... we have had the worst list for the past 3 years. Now we are starting to see some signs of the talent we got coming through but we got no depth. So why blame a coach that has nothing but a hand full to work with. like i said next year we will see the baby blues run out and no longer the likes of Prenda, Sporn, Banno, Chambers, Teague and Longmuir
I think you're the one struggling for an idea. No clue at all. You're a dreamer. You can't seem to work out where the real problem is. Run out who we like next year, if we still have Pagan as coach it will be like shuffling deck-chairs on the Titanic. List-wise, forward-line is great, when they're not injured, midfield is ok when they're not played as defenders, defence needs some work. If the players don't play with any committment doesn't matter who plays, we'll probably lose nearly every game like we did under Walls in 1989 when he lost the players.

To me, change the coach as quickly as possible. Can't believe people voted to keep Pagan on in this poll. They really must get off on losing, or at least really great gluttons for punishment.


yep sack a coach that majority of his players cant kick a ball, put other team mates under pressure and make stupid decisions.

have you ever played footy?????
Author:  true_blue3 [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 7:45 pm ]
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jim wrote:
ballistic blues wrote:
My god some of you have no idea......... we have had the worst list for the past 3 years. Now we are starting to see some signs of the talent we got coming through but we got no depth. So why blame a coach that has nothing but a hand full to work with. like i said next year we will see the baby blues run out and no longer the likes of Prenda, Sporn, Banno, Chambers, Teague and Longmuir
I think you're the one struggling for an idea. No clue at all. You're a dreamer. You can't seem to work out where the real problem is. Run out who we like next year, if we still have Pagan as coach it will be like shuffling deck-chairs on the Titanic. List-wise, forward-line is great, when they're not injured, midfield is ok when they're not played as defenders, defence needs some work. If the players don't play with any committment doesn't matter who plays, we'll probably lose nearly every game like we did under Walls in 1989 when he lost the players.

To me, change the coach as quickly as possible. Can't believe people voted to keep Pagan on in this poll. They really must get off on losing, or at least really great gluttons for punishment.


sorry jim but i think your the one who's struggling for an idea yes our list has improved over the past 3 years but all the improvement has come from teenagers. reality is teenagers cant really have a massive impact on the outcome of a game but in 3, 4 years time when all of them are in their early 20's then we should be judging pagan.
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