The negative people among you will see this as a negative post, but it is in fact a positive post.

Well, this must be the New Testament, because Carlton God is much less "in your face" these days

this is a shocking post have you no respect for the history of our club do you want us to lose by 150 points every week for the next 5 years and i dont care how many premierships we win for it nothing will erase the pain of watching that for years we'd probably lose 20k members and 50k suporters and we'd probly have to relocate or change name or something if thats what you want your kidding yourself and as for this silly idea being a 2 year plan it definitely wont be it will be at least 5 years and up to 8 or 9 years long

Anyone who doesn't want to tank and win four games or less is a fool. I find it hilarious that the same 'do gooder' people that didn't want to tank near the end of last year are now the ones raving about Murphy and Kennedy.

The return game against Essendon* this year should be the biggest tank in history, leave out Fevola, Whitnall, Stevens etc if necessary it will be impossible for the AFL to prove.

Speaking of those three, along with Waite, Carlton should grab their balls and trade them end of year, or at least two, we are losing by 10+ goals with them all playing as is now. This will ensure a less than four wins the following year as well and finally it will give us a quality group of youngsters coming through together, we don’t have that at present.

Not sure how we will get them but just as an example(may be spread over two drafts)

Fevola - 12,35
Whitnall - 25
Stevens - 20
Waite - 16

Would let us enter the 2006 draft with picks 1,12,17,25,32,35 which will give us six quality youngsters.

We then enter the 2007 draft with picks 1,2,16,18,20,34.

Anyone who thinks the current group of youngsters we have will be good enough to support Fevola, Whitnall and Stevens to win a premiership are kidding themselves.

It’s almost 5 years since Black Friday and the majority of you thought it would make the club stronger than ever before and it was perhaps the best thing for the club. Was it?

Do you want a team capable of winning a premiership or a team only possible of sneaking into the finals or if very lucky the top 4?

Do you want to be sitting here in 5 years time when these three have retired and be wishing we had of traded them?

Do you want to be sitting here in 5 years time saying how pointless it was finishing 6th to 12th in 2008,09,10?

The negative people among you will see this as a negative post, but it is in fact a positive post.

Carlton God
Futurist and Visionary

do u guys really think that these suggestions are going to have an impact in 2 years? i cant see us winning a game for the next 3 years if we dont have fevola whitnall and stevens these guys are all under 26 and every club needs its leaders or theres no one for the young blokes to model themselves on

Nah F@%&#! it - i can't let this go. I raise my hand thusly to say that I do not want to be a supporter of Carlton if all we're going to do is buy, sell and exchange to win a premiership.

How long ago was it that we were all deriding St Kilda about their (supposed) high number of top ten draft picks? I note that that line of humour has died lately: perhaps because we CFC supporters are wishing our hardest to set an all-time record of sub top ten picks for our next premiership team?

I KNOW IT'S THE SYSTEM ... I KNOW! F@%&#! this is frustrating. I KNOW I'm being romantic - wanting a team that's built without concessions.

AAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHH - I can't win this! Synbad's going to bust my chops with a clearly thought out (although poorly executed) point that's going to make my airy fairy ramblings reduntant.

Pant pant pant - I'm through - I'm done. I'm going back to posting drug references in Talking Stuff to titillate the ladies

F@%&#! I need a line

Synbad, I KNOW!!!

I'm just frustrated.

Of course I'm not suggesting I won't support the team - it's the system - it's just sad that this system allows opposition supporters to say "Oh, ok, so you won the premiership - but you wouldn't have if you didn't get those early draft picks, you know!". It would be nice if we could win on our own terms - not the AFL's (which should be a facilitator - not a F@%&#! plastic mapped out destiny maker ... type ... thing)

OK - four years of frustration have been mildly vented - I'm going back in my box now